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Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30141
01/10/08 06:12 PM
01/10/08 06:12 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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Yuck!

<img src="http://herballure.com/ForumExtras/Images/agscfzadsj.jpg">

I have been on a parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse and essiac tea for 27 days now. I have 3 days to go before they finish. All Humaworm products.I am breaking from chelating when I am doing these fairly major body cleanses/detox’s.

This is a small part of the black gunk I passed in my BM yesterday. It was at least 3 feet long. It was really very very black, a black death kind of black. It is the same black gunk that I passed after 5 days on humaworm and the same black gunk that I passed 4 months ago when I first did the first round of Humaworm.

And I finally found out what it is. Its mucoid plaque.

In the four months since this stuff has been coming out of me I have been healing. I have finally become less ill and I have been rebuilding my body with the healthy food that I eat and the megadosing of supplements that I take. I have put on 10Kg (22pounds) in that time, which was wanted and needed. I probably could do with 15-20kg before I reach my ideal weight, whatever that may be.

No wonder I had food intolerances.
No wonder I did not digest any of my food
No wonder I felt so ill
No wonder I had declining health all the time
No wonder I was fading away…..my body was full of this gunk stopping me from digesting any food.

Thank heavens I did these parasite cleanses and bowel cleanses…….THANK HEAVENS! Wish I had done them earlier.

They are simple things to do too…..just taking a few herbs throughout the day for a month……cheap as chips too.
Throughout the last 27 days i have also been regularly passing UFO's in my BM's.
-i have had the evil black gunk as above
-i have had small things that look like the pulp from lemons
-i have had what looks like the rind of cucumber
-i have had lots of stuff that looks like flacky dried up bit of leaf.
Whatever they actually are, be it hookworms or ringworms or whatever….they are all parasites and they are being killed and removed and I am getting better every day.

I’m gonna say it again….

Thank heavens I did these parasite cleanses and bowel cleanses…….THANK HEAVENS! But I really wish I had done them earlier.

But what the funk is Mucoid Plaque anyway?


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30142
01/10/08 06:13 PM
01/10/08 06:13 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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I have been reading all about mucoid plaque and what interesting stuff it is….these are just a few highlights from both extremes. According to Wikipedia it is just an urban legend. So that must make me a urban legend too, because all the pictures I just looked at…..thats defo what came out of me! Yuck!

From Wikipedia, I quote

“Mucoid plaque or mucoid rope is a term coined by a naturopath and entrepreneur, purporting to describe a harmful coating of mucus-like material existing in the gastrointestinal tracts of most people. The existence of mucoid plaque has not been reported in the medical literature,[1][2] and it has been variously described as "a complete fabrication without any anatomical basis",[3] a "non-credible concept",[4] and "a bold lie".[5] An article from the Division of Complementary Medicine of the University of Exeter described mucoid plaque and other claims of "colonic autointoxication" as "a triumph of ignorance over science", based on "old bogus claims and the impressive power of vested interests."[6]
Despite the absence of scientific evidence, mucoid plaque is discussed outside the medical community, especially within holistic health circles and in anecdotal accounts of colon hydrotherapy procedures.[7][8] The idea of huge accumulations of fecal material in the bowel has acquired urban legend status.[9]
The concept of mucoid plaque was coined by Richard Anderson, a naturopath and seller of products which purport to remove mucoid plaque.”

unquote

So……I thought best to google Richard Anderson…………..

What is Mucoid Plaque ?


Answer by Richard Anderson, N.D., N.M.D.

"The intestines can store a vast amount of partially digested, putrefying matter (as well as drugs and other toxic chemicals)—for decades even. Some intestines, when autopsied, have weighed up to 40 pounds and were distended to a diameter of 12 inches with only a pencil-thin channel through which the feces could move.

That 40 pounds was due to caked layers of encrusted mucus mixed with fecal matter, bizarrely resembling hardened blackish-green truck tire rubber or an old piece of dried rawhide. I call this mucoid plaque. This mucoid plaque, when it is removed during an intensive colon cleanse, often shows ropelike twists, striations, overlaps, folds, creases—the shape and texture of the intestinal wall.

Mucoid plaque may vary considerably, depending on the chemical conditions in a person’s intestines. It may be hard and brittle; it may be firm and thick; tough, wet, and rubbery; soft, thick, and mucoid; or soft, transparent, and thin; it can range in color from light brown, black, or greenish-black to yellow or grey, and sometimes emits an intensely foul odor.

One client I know, in the course of a month-long colon cleanse, passed a single length of mucoid plaque 15 feet long; another client excreted a total of 11 pounds of mucoid plaque during a cleanse. It is not unusual to pass a total of 35 to 45 feet of plaque, often in the last week. In our clinical experience of monitoring thousands of intensive colon cleanse programs over the last 14 years, most people pass a staggering amount of this strange substance.

I coined the term mucoid plaque, meaning a film of mucus, to describe the unhealthy accumulation of abnormal mucous matter on the walls of the intestines. Conventional medicine knows this as a layering of mucin or glycoproteins (made up of 20 amino acids and 50% carbohydrates) which are naturally and appropriately secreted by intestines as protection from acids and toxins.

However, mucoid plaque is different from the mucosal lining (mucosa) of the gastrointestinal tract. The latter acts as a necessary buffer to the gastrointestinal wall and as a lubricant for peristalsis; it is also responsible for the secretion of mucins which comprise mucoid plaque. The cells of the outermost layer of the mucosa (the epithelium) stay fresh and vital, renewing themselves every four to seven days.

It sounds paradoxical, but medical research indicates that mucoid plaque is a normal self-defense measure—natural protection from unnatural toxins.

Evidence indicates that mucoid plaque, with the possible exception of that found in the stomach, is unnatural to the healthy body and is found only after the body has moved away from perfect health and into a diseased state. The theory goes that if you were completely healthy, your system would produce no mucoid plaque because it wouldn’t need to.

When the body has been chronically subjected to (or put under attack by) drugs (such as aspirin or alcohol), salt, heavy metals (including dental mercury), toxic chemicals, parasites, harmful microbes and their toxins, and circulating immune complexes (immune cells locked onto undigested particles or foreign substances in the bloodstream), it produces mucoid plaque to protect itself.

The trouble is once the mucoid plaque is created, for whatever biologically important reason, it is not routinely excreted from the intestines. Instead it lodges in the numerous folds and crevices of this large organ and can remain there for many years. Over time, the mucoid plaque grows thicker, firmer, and more widespread—colonizing, as it were, the tennis court–sized interior of the intestines. Old feces adhere to the plaque and are not removed during a normal bowel motion.

The plaque slows down intestinal action, both waste excretion and nutrient absorption. It can harbor pathogens, including bacteria and parasites, which actually hide underneath the plaque; it may block the normal outflow of lymph and mucin drainage. It binds toxins to itself and contributes to bowel toxicity, slowly emitting toxins into the bloodstream. Finally, plaque creates a friendly environment for disease, in some cases for colon cancer and gastric carcinomas.

Gradually your immune system is weakened as the chronically toxic bowel environment destroys useful bacteria. Your liver becomes overburdened by the unprocessed intestinal toxins, and nerve meridian points in the intestines related to hundreds of other parts of the body are compromised.

A toxic bowel results in toxic blood and lymph, toxic organs and cells, and toxic function. The bowel “feeds” every organ, tissue, and cell in our bodies, so when the quality of feeding from the digestive system is contaminated or of poor quality, the cells and organs elsewhere in the body will be compromised and grow sluggish and inefficient.

So while mucoid plaque is “natural” in that the intestines produce it, it is most unnatural in that the presence of a large amount of it indicates a high degree of intestinal ill health. When the intestines are ill, you will be ill. "

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30143
01/10/08 06:18 PM
01/10/08 06:18 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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Looking at that picture makes me gag. It’s disgusting.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grabbedbythetoilet.gif" alt="" />

i may get banned for post such disgusting pic's. Sorry folks.


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30144
01/10/08 06:49 PM
01/10/08 06:49 PM
Bex  Offline
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lol. It's digusting, but it's not "banned disgusting". It's just amazing what has come out of a person. It looks like DEATH <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/skullandbones.gif" alt="" />

Wow, amazing. You must be absolutely relieved to have it out and putting on some much needed weight after that. It's strange, you gotta wonder how this occurs especially as you were already so good and careful on your diet. One would have thought your body would have excreted such material having had such good food....I guess we can get to such a point where we need more direct drastic measures to do the job for us.

All power to you, I'm impressed. This will likely be a very big encouragement to others to try it too, however I would say diet is a big part of the healing process in combination with what you've done.

IN this case, a picture really does speak a thousand words!!

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30145
01/10/08 07:56 PM
01/10/08 07:56 PM
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Didn't want to sound like a total smart a** so I am editing my reply. Is this all available from Humaworm? And I suppose the only way to know if one has got this is to try the 4 week program, no? This looks like a great way to clean out the system.

I think these cleanses are a good idea for everyone.

Thanks, for, ummm, sharing...

TW

Last edited by Tumbleweed; 01/10/08 09:33 PM.
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque *DELETED* *DELETED* #30146
01/10/08 08:45 PM
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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30147
01/10/08 10:50 PM
01/10/08 10:50 PM
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I did a "Parastroy" cleanse and believe I had roundworms. Once they came out I started gaining weight again although it didn't help me much more than that.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30148
01/11/08 12:58 AM
01/11/08 12:58 AM
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Wow. You are quite a researcher.

Humaworm hmm? I will have to get some before they sell out.

You did a series of bowel cleanses, yes? how many? do you think the liver cleanses were helpful in getting that to release?

Well, just think, you probably unloaded more mercury and toxins in one afternoon than most people are going to get at it one year with chelating. Now see, there you go...you replaced all your amalgams, good boy, but until that came out you probably had more mercury in your behind than you did in your mouth even with amalgams in.

It's at the top of my to do list... next several weeks...

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" /> congratulations, it must feel like your birthday. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" />




Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30149
01/11/08 01:37 AM
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The first thing I thought of was is I am so jealous! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/coolthumbsup.gif" alt="" />

Good for you - keep up the good work!

I am so getting these products as I can only imagine what is inside of me. Was it scary when that came out?
Now that your month is up, when do they recommend you do another round? Cause if that is what is in you - I am sure there is more where that came from!

Teri

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30150
01/11/08 08:39 AM
01/11/08 08:39 AM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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I am amazed at what has been lurking inside me. Just think of all the parasites and fungus and bacteria that must have been living under that thing! Yuck! No wonder I was so sick. The blackness of it was shocking. Spot on Bex….it looked like death…. and there was so much of it too. That blackness was all toxins….thick with toxins….and thank funk I’m getting it out of me. That mucus was protecting me from megatoxins inside me and it got so full hardly anything else could get through it to nourish me.

Re diet…..my diet has been ultra healthy for just about 1 year now. This toxic mess is only coming out of me because of the parasite and bowel cleanses I’ve just done.

Obviously I had no idea that this was in me, so I guess you too will not know until you do a bowel cleanse and a parasite cleanse. I don’t know which part of me that it comes from….just that its from my intestines.

Quote
Well, just think, you probably unloaded more mercury and toxins in one afternoon than most people are going to get at it one year with chelating. Now see, there you go...you replaced all your amalgams, good boy, but until that came out you probably had more mercury in your behind than you did in your mouth even with amalgams in.

If the blackness is anything to go by…then yes….i just unloaded mega toxins.

Sos: I have not liver flushed for 6-7 months, although I plan to 1 week after Humaworm is finished. That’s next weekend.

Teri: was it scary? No, it was not scary….i was over-the-moon happy. I didn’t at the time know what it was, but I knew that whatever it was….it was much better out of me! I don’t know how often I can do the bowel cleanse, I will ask and let u know. Parasite cleanses is 3 months in-between, to stop any “resistant” parasites developing. Essiac tea can be taken continually.

Ok….let me tell you what I did to get this toxic slag out:

All this is Humaworm herbs, all available from www.humaworm.com
(no, I do not work there either!) curezone has a very helpful support page too, with plenty of stories like mine.

Parasite cleanse(humaworm): It’s a one month cleanse. Take 2 capsules 30 mins before breakfast and again 2 caps 30 mins before dinner. Take for 30 days. Drink plenty of water.

Bowel cleanse(humacleanse): It’s a one month cleanse. Take 4 caps at noon and take 5 caps at bedtime. Every day for one month.

Essiac tea(hu-mana-tea): Make tea in advance, each batch lasts 2 weeks in the fridge. Each day drink some tea at 3 separate times. Got to be at least 1 hour before and/or 2 hours after food, otherwise nausea kicks in. For me that was 10am, 4pm and 9pm.

I did all these things at the same time and it really was as easy as pie…just taking a few herbs in those capsules at the appropriate time. It was slightly complicated at first to remember what to take when, but I easily slipped into remembering and doing everything on time.

If you want to know what does what, the humaworm website is full of info about why people need to do these things and how, what and why each herb is included. If you starting out I would skip the Essiac Tea and just go for the parasite cleanse and the bowel cleanse. Although humaworm on its own includes herbs for bowel cleansing too so you could just do that. In fact that’s probably why Humaworm gets such good press, because it is a bowel cleanse, parasite cleanse and a blood cleanser all in one.


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30151
01/11/08 09:12 AM
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UGHHH!!! Sunshine, thanx for sharing!

Just joking:) Good you're getting stuff out of you.:)

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30152
01/11/08 10:24 AM
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Sunshine

thanks for sharing!!! Do you feel better for getting rid of that? I mean - a real difference in how toxic you feel?

Nicola


Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30153
01/11/08 12:12 PM
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Yeah, sorry, it’s a bit of a shocker that pic……….

But the reason I posted it, the reason its right at the top of the page, is to demonstrate how effective body cleansing can be! Look at all the toxins I removed by taking those simple herbs.

Yes, I do feel better. Better and better. Still a long way to go, but things are speeding up with all the detoxing and cleansing I am doing now. And the healthy food and supplements are working better now too.

This latest load of mucoid plaque removed is leading to even more change now. I feel stronger. My muscles feel stronger. My shoulder pains are gone. My lower back pain is much much less. I was able to stand all the way home on the train last night. Sounds stupid but that has been completely out of the question for the last 3 years.

I am pretty annoyed with myself for not doing these simple body cleanses earlier. I knew what they could do middle of last year! Would have saved me considerable pain and suffering if I had done them earlier last year, but…….but other things distracted me and took priority…….i replaced my amalgams.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/catdance.gif" alt="" />


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30154
01/11/08 03:04 PM
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Sunshine,
Did someone recommend the cleanses or did you just do the research & find the herbs yourself?
Also did it hurt passing that?
It's digusting but effective and I'm really wondering is there something like that holding me back from healthiness too.
I'm going to read up on it now...
Thankyou.
yuck
Also were you bloated or anything before you did the cleanses?
Do the amount of bm s increase while on a cleanse?
Thanks

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30155
01/11/08 03:54 PM
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Hi Sunshine P,
Congratulations on the birth of your- um- TOXIC TOILET MONSTER!, luckily (probibly due to ur earlier posts) i have allready ordered my Humaworm.
Thanks for your great posts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30156
01/11/08 04:25 PM
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If this doesn't encourage someone to start looking at parasites, fungi/candida I don't know what will. It's really affected me to see this picture as well as hear what you went through with it Sunshine.

It's actually upsetting in a way that you have been carrying this around with you for goodness knows HOW LONG and suffered so badly as a consequence, not even able to absorb nutrients properly or gain any weight. Geesh, this is scary. How many of us have this going on or something similar I wonder...

When I read that something like this can be caused by long term toxicity from whatever - cigarettes? drugs? mercury? etc etc and it's the body's protective mechanism, but one wonders why it doesn't break down again properly? Is it a vicious cycle to where the body can no longer help itself?

Well, this will be one of my future things I would like to do at some point. This is dramatic stuff. I know it's not easy to post something like that Sunshine, but sometimes it's got to be done.

This is the kind of thread that is worthy of saving for the sake of proving to others that this is what can happen with these cleanses.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30157
01/11/08 05:22 PM
01/11/08 05:22 PM
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I 've done around 50 colonics in the past year and have never seen any thing like that come out , looks like something out of a si-fi movie , did you give out any cigars after the birth of this thing

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30158
01/11/08 06:29 PM
01/11/08 06:29 PM
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You all might want to check out www.drnatura.com. Instead of doing one cleanse at a time you can do two or three.

The product is called "Colonix" and so far after researching this as thoroughly as I can, I made the decision that this product had the most testimonials and even comparisons done by people who don't own the website, their experiences of using other bowel cleanse products versus Colonix. So I jumped and bought 3 months worth without the "Toxinout" part because I already had on had a product that is similar (Adva Clear by Metagenics). However, once I run out of Adva Clear I'll be buying the Toxin out.

It's advertised as a bowel cleanser than you can do in tandem with a parasite cleanse. The parasite cleanse is the same ingredients you find in Hulda Clark's and Humaworms products. The website has pictures just like the ones Sunshine posted. And, like I mentioned above, you can also do the detox.

I've been on this for 3 weeks now and have passed shorter and medium brown colored specimens than Sunshine. This morning being the most recent. What both my husband and noticed was an immediate increase in energy. I haven't inspected it too closely, but sure the parasites are leaving as well as I am not feeling that sensation of something crawling in my colon as I was before.

Really what led me to do it was Sunshines mention of the 5 things the curezone says to do to detox and I hadn't done the bowel or kidney cleanse yet, so opted for the bowel since it looked the easiest and more unlife disturbing. No rushes to the restroom or special diet, it seems to work whether you are eating good or not, although I choose to eat well to help the detox process and regain overall health.

I don't think anyone can lose doing this system. They have "specials" all the time, so if you monitor the website you can get free shipping or half off or other promotions. It seems like the testimonials speak for themselves and I could put one on their now just for the increase in energy and the fact that UFO matter is leaving the spaceship <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30159
01/11/08 06:34 PM
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In regards to "how did it feel" coming out. All except one time, I never knew it had come out. The fiber in the product eases it out. Feels like a regular BM. Only one time did I have to push to get out.

I also noticed that sometimes I felt like I had something toxic in me and then went to the restroom and afterwords its as if my body says, "thank God that's out!"

This program is SO EZ! And inexpensive. I'm with Sunshine, I knew about this a year ago and should have done it! I just was so scared, emotional, fearful and about to get the amalgams out too, so I did that and forgot about the bowel cleanse.



Gabriella

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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30160
01/11/08 06:37 PM
01/11/08 06:37 PM
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One more thought...in 2003 I did a WEEK LONG colima board cleanse as one of the first things to try to get well. The only thing I got out of it was hemrroids, a $500 colima board and spent another $300 on supplements. I also have done colonics and every colonic practioner has told me it takes a lot of flushes to get the same results you get with HUMAWORM and Colonix. So I ask you, what's easier and cheaper? I was just about to sign up for colonics when I came across this. It's also not as embarrassing and no mess. Everything right into the toilet...go about your normal everyday life.

Last edited by glancina; 01/11/08 06:40 PM.

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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30161
01/12/08 03:26 AM
01/12/08 03:26 AM
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Hi Sunflower. No one recommended these cleanses to me. I have no faith in my useless doctors that allowed me to get so dangerously close to death by there inaction and inability, so I had to learn it all myself. I have done lots of research about how to heal, about how to turn my health around. Must have read at least 30 books last year about it. All different stuff, different methods about healing, and you know what?….they all say roughly the same thing. Sure they may use different words, rules, styles and/or formulas, they make it real complicated with loads of big fancy words too…..but all roads lead to Rome when it comes to healing……and the concept is easy once you simplify things down to the basics.

All you have to do is put your body in a position to heal itself.

Your body is an awesome piece of hardware, you really can rebuild yourself, your body does it automatically! Cut your arm and a scab forms and a couple of days later…..its all healed up and as good as new. Same with almost all the rest of you too.

To put your body in a position to heal you must take some very easy steps: -

1) Stop harming yourself with the poor food you eat and the environment you live/work in.
2) Feed yourself top quality food.
3) Do some simple body detoxing/cleansing to flush out any accumulated gunk.

The simpliest/clearest healing protocol I found was the Curezone healing protocol. I did it all in the wrong order and now that I have done everything, I know why it is in the order that it is in, because what goes before makes what goes after easier.

Its worth saying that bit again……

“because what goes before makes what goes after easier.”

Curezone Healing protocol
1. Diet clean up
2. Bowel cleanse with parasite cleanse
3. Dental cleanup
4. Kidney Cleanse
5. Liver cleanse.

If you check out the curezone healing protocol and search different illnesses or diseases you will find that they are all the same. The protocols all have different headings….like “Heart Disease Healing Protocol” and “Candida Healing Protocol” but if you read them….they are all identical. At first I was well pissed off. I though what a con! What a bunch of tossers! So I blacklisted curezone and did not go there for a while. But after lots more reading I figured out they where right. All roads lead to Rome in healing:-

1) Stop harming yourself with the poor food you eat and the environment you live/work in.
2) Feed yourself top quality food.
3) Do some simple body detoxing/cleansing to flush out any accumulated gunk.

http://curezone.com/diseases/health.asp

Us mercury sick people have so many things wrong its real difficult to know what to do first. In my opinion this healing protocol is a fantastic base camp. An excellent place to start learning, taking control of your health and its good to have a plan of action to follow.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30162
01/12/08 03:28 AM
01/12/08 03:28 AM
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Sunflower: you asked if it hurt passing that toxic toilet monster? No, was a normal BM. Zero pain.

Nope I am not/was not bloated. I am the opposite of bloated I am significantly underweight. Skinny as a rake. No belly whatsoever.

Yes, the amount of BM’s went up during the cleanses, both in number of times per day and quantity. Up from 1-2 per day to 3-4 per day. This is a good thing. Actual size of the BM was also bigger too. That’s because the herbs in the bowel cleanse swell up to 50 times there normal size when they pass through. It acts as a giant pipe cleaner and cleans you out as it passes through.

HeavyHead: yes, was very much a monster…..and I killed the mutherfunker too! Congrats on ordering Humaworm. It has worked wonders for me and I’m sure it will work for u too. well done for taking control of your own health and doing something significant to get better. Keep us posted on what happens. remember to drink plenty of water during the cleanse. You do not want to get clogged up.

Mikey: Cigar.....LOL, i do feel like celebrating now that that is out of me!


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Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30163
01/12/08 03:40 AM
01/12/08 03:40 AM
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Hi Glancina

Thank heavens I am not alone in this. I am over-the-moon happy its working well for you too. Yes its easy peasy, yes we should have done it earlier, yes the immediate effects are wonderful and yes “thank God that’s out!”

I agree 100pct, I too don’t think anyone can lose doing these body cleanses.

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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30164
01/12/08 12:15 PM
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Hi. I use to get this kind of stuff when I first started cleansing about 2 years ago.
I was doing the psyllium, bentonite clay and pectin and other bulking kind of stuff.

But was wondering how much of that "mucoid plaque" was really the the bulking agents?

I'm not doubting at all cuz I had tons of that stuff myself, but once I got that "clean out" I haven't had any of that stuff sence???I even had stuff that looked like tread on tires, with grooves throughout.
It looked and felt like tire tread.

I had to stop all the bulking agents d/t my extremely sluggish and redudant colon. All they did was make me bloat up like a balloon and horrible cramps.

I'm on day 16 or something of the humaworm customed made with out the psyllium, and I've had some mild nausea, headaches but otherwise feel much better overall, but no mucoid plaque looking stuff sence taking the bulking agents.
Just my thoughts :

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30165
01/12/08 01:04 PM
01/12/08 01:04 PM
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Sunshine P, That is excellent!!!!

I used Humaworm, and have actually eliminated lots of thread worms, some round worms, and lots of fluke worms through using Humaworm. This was just last year too, and I had no clue that I still had that stuff in me!

I had removed mucoid plaque before I had my metal fillings removed , but it wasnt' black. Mine was like a huge mound of grey clay, with overlapping edges. I freaked out when I passed this too!

What got it out of me was eating only raw fruits and vegetables for a while, and taking psyllum husk with Cascara sagrada herb. in the morning with water.

I am taking Humaworm Herbal dewormer every year now for maintenance, while I continue to chelate in between that time.


I am SOOOO Happy for you, and I think you are doing the World of Good for your body. God bless you and thanks for sharing your experience with us!!!

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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30166
01/12/08 05:38 PM
01/12/08 05:38 PM
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Ah ha! More friends that have had this gunk too. Thanks for letting me know this is not unique.

Yup, its pretty freaky. I’m glad its out. One more day then all the cleanses will be finished…. until 3 months later when i will do another parasite cleanse. i have had superb results. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grabbedbythetoilet.gif" alt="" />


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Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30167
01/12/08 05:39 PM
01/12/08 05:39 PM
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Cool.Thankyou,.I do the diet and did the dental cleanup...so next will be a cleanse...I'm thinking a bowel & parasite cleanse
as they come first on the list of the cleanses.
It's actually exciting to think this can help me feel better.
Thanks for all the detailed info, and the links...

You said that toxic monster was about 3 feet long! and you were underweight & not bloated,it must have taken up alot of room inside you,it's just amazing what can be going on inside of us.

The foods I'm eating alot of at the moment are lots of fresh salad,and raw vegetables &lots of pumpkin seeds and these foods are making me feel good.Like it's exactly what I need...

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30168
01/12/08 06:02 PM
01/12/08 06:02 PM
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I haven’t tried any other similar products….i don’t need to because Humaworm rock n rolls!

My Mum is doing a Humaworm cleanse right now. She is 1 week in. I’m going to see her for Sunday lunch, make sure she is ok.



"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30169
01/12/08 07:47 PM
01/12/08 07:47 PM
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i was hoping to find some good results (like in the picture) when i did the humerworm cleanse last summer but had no such luck, the most i got were what looked like tomatoe seeds, (lol). maybe i didnt have much to come out, at one time i was taking lots of different natural antifungals, ie, olive leaf, gse, threelac, coconut oil, apart from liver flushes, bowel cleansing using colosan and enemas, so i think i killed alot of bugs before i started the humaworm, but still glad i did it, im due for my next one in june.
now im thinking of doing another liver flush,( lethal) but boy it works!

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30170
01/12/08 08:23 PM
01/12/08 08:23 PM
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Hi Dawn, what kind of diet do you follow? I cannot remember... what foods do you and and avoid? I tend to follow the weston Price diet (apart from grain/fruit, because I cannot eat them due to bad yeast).

Are you feeling better at all by the way since your amalgam removal? I hope so. And are you still chelating?

My last parasite cleanse didn't seem to do anything significant for me either, but it's possible it helped a bit with certain symptoms like drooling and overeating...(gross I know).


Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30171
01/13/08 07:16 PM
01/13/08 07:16 PM
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Hi Sunshine
You did so well. Congrats!!! I have been wanting to do this cleanse too! I am a little scared because I had the ulcers all the way through my digestive system. Don't want this to flare up again and when I do make a mistake on food or supplement my stomach lets me know within minutes and for a couple of days after too. When I was going to my nd they never once mentioned bowel cleanse and I figured that would have been first priority. I told them that I had not been having good bowel habits for like 13 years. I have read so much stuff on death beginning in the colon. Well you would think that first priority would be to get that person pooping! Right? Well it was never mention. I think this is where alot of my problems lie is in the fact that I am not regular despite the good diet and supplements. Things are getting better but my bathroom habits are still lacking. I guess what my question is did it hurt scratchy you know I don't want to upset the ulcers but would like to be squeaky clean LOL
Also I read all of the material you posted at the top of this thread and about the bacteria. The stomach upsets I mention after a food mistake etc... I have often wondered if as I detox I just keep hitting this stuff and it takes my tummy a few days to heal it back up. If that is the case then I would probably really benefit from a good bowel cleanse. I just don't want to end up in that same pain again.
One day I was on curezone and found a post on a guy named Richard Schulze who is a natural healer. Very interesting guy. He has alot of movies on google video and some on utube too. Some are teaching videos and are kind of lengthy but the guy is good. He says first thing he does for his patients is bowel cleanse. Get the person pooping and you will solve alot of problems. That is first and foremost. He starts them slow but he did make this comment unless they are bleeding and then he makes the bowel cleanse more extensive to work faster. If they are bleeding more herbs to get the bowels moving quicker. Ulcers are a pretty bad thing and I was not bleeding at any time so I really believe I should get right down to business with this cleanse. Might get rid of that occasional stomach pain.... who knows but is worth a shot to get more healthy and open that pathway a little more.
Go check out this guy Richard Schulze on Google video It's a good watch and some good info.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30172
01/14/08 01:21 AM
01/14/08 01:21 AM
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I would give it a go if I were you too. just start slowly.

If you can eat yogurt, the dannon yogurt, vanilla, in the big containers is great to keep in the fridge and eat a couple times a day to keep good stomach bacteria happening while cleansing.

I've done colon cleanses before, herbal.. i don't recall them affecting my stomach much, just make you run to the bathroom more than usual.

ulcers would indicate too much acid no? maybe some extra calcium would help, but yogurt is loaded with that also if you can manage it. Good whole food stores usually also sell something called Kefir that is like a liquid yogurt, might be more organic than dannon. wish i could find some here.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30173
01/14/08 09:21 AM
01/14/08 09:21 AM
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hi So Sick
I am gona give it a shot and see what happens. I take all kinds of stuff for my stomach as well as probiotics. It all helps but I still have stomach upsets and pain sometimes. Last nite we had roast and potatoes and carrots and no new spices and pain all night long. i am also menopausal and most of this pain starts once the egg drops and up until I have my period and has been happening for over a year. The nd I went to said h-pylori but is really funny that it only flares its ugly face during this time of the month. This month so far no period yaa hoo I hope this is it and I am done. When all of this started over a year ago I tried to ask some of the women I work for (they are all in their 80's) what menopause was like. Out of the eight I worked for not one could tell me. Care to guess why? They all had histerectomies. I guess that's ok but I prefer to keep all of my goodies God gave me LOL.
Anyways I am starting parasite cleanse today. I was suppose to start it 2 weeks ago but ended up with a sinus infection. That was a whole lot of fun too!!! LOL Sometimes I think my stomach pain could be due to the parasite activity and accumulation. Last time I did the parasite cleanse it helped the stomach pain more than anything else sooo....I am ready for the killing spree. I am gona try a bowel cleanse at the same time and well we shall see!!! I am still doing castor oil packs and will be thru this whole cleanse and then I am gona give the liver flush a shot. I think I will be ready at that point. Thanks for all the info and all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/byebye.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30174
01/14/08 11:36 AM
01/14/08 11:36 AM
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Hi skieslimit….good luck!

I had no “PAIN”, like going to the loo or stomach pain or any “PAIN” pain.

I did however have lots of strange things happening that are parasite related, but no …..errrrrmmm….but no bathroom pains. All Bm’s where easier than normal.

I had mega itches. I’m talking all-over full-body itches…from head to toe…was fairly full-on for about 4 days in a row and there where plenty of scattered half days of itching. Minor itches, not blood drawing itches….just lots and lots of them.

I had heartburn on and off for most of the cleanses, but small fry stuff and more than manageable.

My tongue was yellow one morning and dark brown that evening. My teeth became very furry, then very clean. I had mouth sores for the first week.

I had strange spots and rashes come and go. Athletes foot cameback for the first time in 12 months.

Almost every single day I had strange BM’s loaded with parasites. I just finished everything yesterday and I was rewarded with 2 hours mega itching & bright yellow BM’s (I will spare you any more nasty pictures!)

All these symptoms are signals that the stuff is working.

I’d say you should do the bowel cleanse at the same time as the parasite cleanse. but does depend on which parasite cleanse you are doing? If its humaworm that may be enough on it’s own. Reason I did both was because on the first round of humaworm I got mega constipated. Now I know why….i was clogged with muquoid plaque…..


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30175
01/14/08 11:41 AM
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Yea, all of those items, the colon cleanse, parasite cleanse, and live flush should work together to make your stomach feel real good little by little. each should be a noticable improvement.

the liver flush especially, because your liver is always dumping new stuff into your stomach/colon. I have done 4 so far, will do another in a few weeks. i am due for a colon cleanse too.

Try sage, the herb sage, for menopause relief. Use it in food, supplements or buy a plant and eat the leaves fresh.

I have a back/side (not really my back but down that direction, maybe my kidney got bruised i think) injury that's almost 2 years old that only bothers me during the monthly too. It's weird. Pressure I think. but since the liver flushes and parasite cleanse it doesn't nearly bother me as much as before.

I dump so much junk with the liver flushes. it's real important to do that about a week after your parasite cleanse is finished or lots of stuff will stay trapped in your liver.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30176
01/14/08 04:20 PM
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hi bex, im on an anti candida diet and very strict too! ive been on it for yrs now, yes i chelate religiously every 3 days ala 30mg, dmsa 25mg. take all the recommended supplements.
actually i just realised im due for another humaworm right now, so i ordered some with colosan, il do 2 weeks of colosan, then do the humaworm, then probably a few liver flushes. im a bit of a maniac when it comes to detoxing, probably cos i never want to get back the way i did before.
dawn x

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30177
01/14/08 04:27 PM
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Hi Dawn, I hope it's helping you....do you feel you are slowly getting better and coming through this?

I think for some of us it is particularly slow and it also depends what else is going on alongside the mercury too - e.g. other chronic deep seated illnesses.

Sounds like you're doing all the right things under the circumstances, good on you.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30178
01/14/08 04:28 PM
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i say strict but i do eat apples, berries, red skin potatoes, also brown rice flour agrees with me, i also eat tons of natural yogurt with xylitol.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30179
05/11/08 03:02 AM
05/11/08 03:02 AM
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Well I'm on day 11 of Humacleanse and I've just expelled a foot long ropey strand about the width of a normal pen. Is that mucoid plaque? I really shouldn't have been surprised to see it considering that many years I only use to have bowel movements for about 5 days in a month for a few years!

However, like veggiemom I did wonder whether it was from the bulking agents. The strand that I passed was a 'normal' brown colour not black, so it didn't look as though it had been in my body for a long time. Then again, it did smell awful and I'm sure the herbs couldn't smell that bad.

I did a bit of googling and came across someone who passed the same sort of ropey strands from having colonics rather than from doing a colon cleanse or taking bulking agents, so it seems likely to me that it was probably mucoid plaque and that this cleanse is doing me a world of good.

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=6906

I'm pleased to be seeing some results! I hope it continues. I figure the more cleansing I can do now before I start amalgam removal and chelation the better!

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30180
05/11/08 03:37 AM
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Well I'm on day 11 of Humacleanse and I've just expelled a foot long ropey strand about the width of a normal pen. Is that mucoid plaque?

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Congratulations!<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" />

Please feel free to look forward to much better health in the near future! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bunnydance.gif" alt="" />

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If it’s a foot long strand…..then yes thats Mucoid plaque and that is very very good news for you. Seriously good news. Its can be all different colours, brown, green, yellow, black….depends on how sick you are, how long u been sick and also where in the body it has come from. Mucoid plaque accumulates from the stomach through the entire length of both the small and large intestines. The small intestine alone is over twenty feet long and some people expel their mucoid plaque in one giant rope 20 foot long.

You get mucoid plaque out by taking herbs, like what u are doing with humacleanse, and by any other techniques for bowel cleansing, like colonics, enema etc, fasting works too. It is quite difficult to get out, only way are these ways and you should be extremely happy with yourself for 1) realising you needed to bowel cleanse 2) doing the bowel cleanse and 3) successfully getting that yuck out.

Keep up the good work!

pictures of mucoid plaque here: http://curezone.com/ig/f.asp?f=88

If you want to know more about mucoid plaque….buy this book…..

“Cleanse & Purify Thyself book 1: cleansing” by Rich Anderson

he is the expert. It’s a bit tricky to find, so you may have to search about a bit. I got mine from here…you get a discount if you get book 2 as well.

http://www.nutricentre.com

Are you feeling any better now its out?


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Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30181
05/11/08 04:39 AM
05/11/08 04:39 AM
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Thanks Sunshine!!! If this is mucoid plaque then excellent. I was hoping to see something like this come out during the cleanse - having said that is still shocked the hell out of me to see it lol. Its good no know that it can be different colours, I guess it makes sense when you think about it. I can't imagine getting rid of a whole 20 foot strand in one go though!

I'm not sure if I feel any better yet. I don't seem to feel any different. My intestines seem a little sensitive. I had a bit of a late night last night so that would eclipse any wellness as late nights usually wreck me (hard on the adrenals maybe). I'll see how I feel tomorrow. Regardless, I see it as a great thing, even if the benefits aren't immediately obvious. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cakefright.gif" alt="" />

The point I was trying to make about the colonics evicting this stuff as well is that it proves that the mucoid plaque is not caused by the herbs or bulking agents themselves, as some people claim, and that this mucoid plaque really does exist! So I guess now having read about the colonics getting rid of it as well and having seen it myself I'm a believer!!

I'm only a third of the way through this cleanse, hoping to see more gunk come out soon! I'll keep you posted.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30182
05/11/08 09:39 AM
05/11/08 09:39 AM
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Congratulations Cmlyon! That is very encouraging news! I am awaiting Humaworm and Humacleanse to be delivered some time this week! That is the exact thing I am hoping will happen to me along with killing and getting rid of as many parasites as possible! That is awesome! I'm sure it was surprising to see that you expelled mucoid plaque but at least you know you got your moneys worth and although you don't fell any difference yet, I have a feeling that by the end of the cleanse you will feel a lot better! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/horray.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/horray.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/horray.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30183
05/11/08 10:25 AM
05/11/08 10:25 AM
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me too!
I' ve ordered some humacleanse and humaworm(for the 1st time!)
I am thinking about just doing the humacleanse 1st on its own though ,I have been so fragile I dont want to blast myself out of it!

Sunshine,
do you think it would be wise to do 30 day humacleanse followed by 30 day humaworm?
I feel it might be too much together?

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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30184
05/11/08 11:17 AM
05/11/08 11:17 AM
Bann  Offline
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Sunshine P,
I am thinking about ordering the Humanworm for parasites. I also should get the colon cleanser too...

The colon cleanser is about $48.00 (I didn't know if anyone knew another method cheaper one)

I just had my last amalgam filling out around May 1st, (this month) ..


I need to get the Andrew Cutler's Book.. Still haven't done that, but know I will.. (just trying to get by with all the cost of the removal and replacement of all those Amalgams right now)

Should I be looking into the parasite cleansing before starting the chelating or should I do some of that first? Also, I would like to do the colon and parasite cleans together, so I don't have to stop chelation for another 30 days, but wonder if I can get both of them (cost is why) together.

Any suggestions or ideas that could help me...<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/imnotworthy.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/imnotworthy.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/imnotworthy.gif" alt="" />

Thank you so much
Beth

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30185
05/11/08 01:39 PM
05/11/08 01:39 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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Cmlyon: yes, amazing really…western medicine does not even believe in what you just got out!!! Wikipedia says mucoid plaque is “a complete fabrication without any anatomical basis.”

…..he he he…it is shocking & seeing really and truly is believing!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucoid_plaque

If you read up about mucoid plaque, you will be amazed that humacleanse managed to dislodge it from you. A lot of people think you have to fast to get that gunk out. I think those Huma-herbs are excellent. I think the freshness of the herbs makes a BIG difference to it’s effectiveness.

Ah ha…just in case you interesting in more info about whats coming out…I found this article for u

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=4567

I don’t know how long it will take for you to feel the benefits of getting that out, 1 day…a couple of weeks…? Everyone is different.

Good luck, I’m happy for ya, and I hope you get more gunk out <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grabbedbythetoilet.gif" alt="" />


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30186
05/11/08 02:00 PM
05/11/08 02:00 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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Hi Sunflower. Good for you. Well done for ordering the cleanses. You see what information leads to…! Understanding and a willingness to try something that has the potential to make you much much better.

Together or separate? Ummmmmm…..you should really make that choice yourself. I would say its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. You should ask on Humaworm curezone thread see what RG says.
For your first cleanse…not sure. If it was your second cleanse…I’d say 100pct yes do ‘em both together.

The straight bowel cleanse can give die-off symptoms on its own, but doing the two together should make Humaworm more effective and easier by removing the toxins/dead-dudes quicker….giving you less side effects…..really is six of one and half a dozen of the other…..

If it where me…????..i’d think about it and ask RG over on curezone. I guess I’d do them together…….

I have done them together, and I have done them separate….i’m doing a Humaworm extra strength on its own right now, I’m on day 16…I finished a humacleanse about 4-5 weeks ago. The picture at the top of this thread was done doing humacleanse + Humaworm + Hu-mana-tea…..I.E. The Full Monty….LOL.

Whatever way you do it…….. It’s better out than in!

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30187
05/11/08 03:18 PM
05/11/08 03:18 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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HI Bann

Good for you for checking this stuff out….together or one at a time?????? only you can decide that. Huamworm on its own….lots and lots of people do just fine with just that….thats what it’s designed for! All in one kinda thing. If cost is an issue then I suggest just the Humaworm on its own.

The reason I did both together was because on my first round of Humaworm, I killed zillions on buggers and had a mountain load of mucoid plaque come out and it……..clogged me up a bit and I needed a colonic to unblock me. So the 2nd time i did a Humaworm I also did a humacleanse at the same time to avoid being clogged up again….the lovely pic at the top of this thread is the result. I did not get clogged up even though I still had a LOT of gunk coming out.

Cleansing and chelating. I do NOT parasite cleanse and chelate at the same time. The reactions I get on parasite cleanses have been a bit extreme, I had large healing crisis’s on both my first two rounds. (Healing crisis’s are good things and something to be happy about, even if I feel like $hit at the time!)
Ditto chelation: lots of things happen when chelating and its vital to learn from them whats happening when chelating and especially so at the beginning…..so doing them together is …… is unwise!

But…..chelation will take 2-4 years depending how bad u are…..so I don’t mind breaking from chelating for just a month….anyway…..i get gigantically better after I do the parasite cleanses so I don’t mind a break in the slightest. A break to get better is fine by me!!

I chelate weekly for 3 months and have a break for a month whilst on Humaworm….although its hardly a break;-)

Bowel cleansing and chelation together are fine after you have some experience with both, die-off from bowel cleanses is much less.

Cutlers book…..yes you should get that. Even if you decide you don’t want to chelate like that, you will be giving yourself the choice….and having options is real important.

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Should I be looking into the parasite cleansing before starting the chelating or should I do some of that first?
It’s important that you don’t bite off more that you can chew. You can only do one thing at a time anyway…so choose one thing…read up about it ….then decide if you want to do it or not….then move on to the next idea.

Do not get bogged down in to many new ideas…it’s a lot to take in and you will be flummoxed and bemused if you try too many things at once.

But….if you want my advice…..investigate and do a Humaworm. Order the Cutler book and then start that when you have decided one way or the other about the parasite cleanse.

Chelation is tricky/complicated and easy all at the same time, you do not want to be rushed when you start chelating….you need to get it straight in your head how its all gonna happen. I read the cutler book twice in a row because it is….tricky/complicated and easy all at the same time….don’t know how to explain it any other way…you will see when u read the book and can make your own mind up.

If you want to investigate parasite cleanses I suggest dedicating 2-3 hours specifically for the job. Read the Humaworm website top – to – bottom and the spent 1 or 2 hours reading the Humaworm curezone thread. If you do that, you will have educated yourself and will be gagging to start getting better.

http://humaworm.com/index.html

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=757

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30188
05/27/08 01:20 AM
05/27/08 01:20 AM
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Actually mucoid plaque is a complete scam: http://mucoid-plaque-scam.blogspot.com/

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30189
05/27/08 01:39 AM
05/27/08 01:39 AM
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Wow!! Thanks for letting us know. This is interesting to say the least.

But I have to say something here. I have tried the same cleanses that Sunshine above has tried (both humaworm for parasites and the humacleanse for the colon), yet did not get the results he got with anything coming out of me like that.....so I'm unsure why it happened to him...yet not me if it's just a result of the products? Though I believe it possibly was, I'm confused as to why none of that came out of me???? what happened to it?

That's what confuses me about it. I took it faithfully too, yet got no such outcome. No tar like rubbery substance whatsoever. If anything, it just made me a bit more regular, which was fine and I probably needed a bit of clean out. Sunshine (I hope you don't mind me speaking on your behalf here) has had significant improvements by these cleanses over time when many others things failed to produce results. If something works, it works, if it doesn't work and is a pile of hyped sh*t, then lack of results are enough to finally put someone off (hopefully). I thank you however for posting this as it's is obviously bonafide....but it still doesn't take away the results that cleanses like this can achieve regardless of what the actual "stuff" itself is.

One is not a sucker for trying something if they are desperate to improve their state of health. It is very hard to distinguish fact from fiction sometimes and if you can afford to give something a go, then go for it.

For me, neither parasite cleanses or colon cleanse made any impact whatsoever. Good or bad. I got no healing crisis or improvement from either, nor have I done so in the past, which does not encouragement one to continue doing them when they have failed to produce any results. However, I am not taking away the fact they help others and sometimes dramatically, but that does not mean they are going to help all people in every situation.

Again I thank you for posting this. Obviously the rubbery stuff maybe a total sham with what it actually is, but if one gains results from the cleanses regardless, that's more important. Just a pity that things are often mislabelled as a way of encouraging people to buy the products. There seems to be a few contraversies such as this. E.g. results of liver flushes also and what comes out and what they are actually caused by!




Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30190
05/27/08 04:36 AM
05/27/08 04:36 AM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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Hi Mucoidplaquescam. I guess you are trying to help people by alerting them to what you read, for which thanks.

Generally I find that there are opposing arguments to every single subject….i really do mean every subject……. and I have found the only way to know for sure is to try it myself….only then will I be able to see what is a scam and what is not a scam.

Seeing is believing……

I am not a research paper on pubmed,
I am not someone selling anything,
I have no ulterior motive that I can think of?
I have no website that I need people to log onto so I can get revenue from any advertising.
I don’t work for herballure either, nor Humaworm, nor Curezone.
I am not stupid and I’m not blind.

The facts remain…….i got long strands of rubbery stuff out of me numerous times, and on each occasion my health got better. The first time it came out I got massively & gigantically better.

Maybe you think I am a victim? A victim from a scammer from one of these companies that sells bowel cleaning herbs? Well…..the herbs made me better. So…if they worked and made me better……that’s not a scam, is it?

So who am I gonna believe?
1) Articles like you just posted up…..very convincing too!
2) My own experience of getting the stuff out of me? And then feeling better?

If you google search for 15 minutes “Mucoid plaque” you will find many many people getting this gunk out and getting better. I am not alone. Not in the slightest alone.

No disrespect to you, because I don’t know you in the slightest…..but I’d rather believe my own eyes than the load of crap on the link you posted.

Seeing is believing……

Why do you think its a scam?


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30191
05/27/08 07:49 AM
05/27/08 07:49 AM
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well personally, I think the only thing that's a scam is the price some of those companies charge for all those herbal kits.

because you really don't need all those herbal kits. you'll get an amazing array of mucous, 'mucoid' and whoknowswhat eklse out of your system simply by doing colonics or a high enema routine.

I saw rubbery strands of yuck come out, not to mention parasites et al, the first few weeks of my enema routine, they were shorter and more or less clear however, some greenish, and not photo worthy like sunshine's, but they were definitely there and they were defintely not caused by psyllium or bentonite clay.

I did flush out quite a bit of old psyllium the first couple days too, but it didnt look anything like the rubbery strands. It looked like psylllium. parasites generally came out with the rubbery looking gunk too.

I notice Mucoidplaquescam's blog link relies heavily on the line 'my doctor doesn't believe it'.

but doctors don't believe a lot of things, he forgot to mention that also. then he also forgot to mention that doctors do believe a lot of other things that keep people chronically ill.

Should we discuss flu shots? SSRI's? Chemo? The number of people who have died using dangerous prescription medications?

Personally I'd even rather pay a couple hundred bucks for one of those herbal kits than let a doctor convince me that removing part of my colon will cure me of all my ills.

and I won't even begin to discuss liver flushes here in that context.

Since doctors were unable to help sunshine, especially his back pain and weakness, yet the colon flushing has alleviated it (mine too, which wasn't nearly as severe as sunshine's again but it was most defintely there and it is now gone) I can't really comprehend the basis of any argument that uses 'my doctor doesn't believe it' to prop itself up.

80% of doctors are scam artists so what's the point? If you want to find a really sick person just locate someone who visits doctors a lot and relies heavily on prescription medications. there's your answer.





Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30192
05/27/08 08:05 AM
05/27/08 08:05 AM
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plus, bentonite clay, via the enema route, has been relieving a good few of us of some pretty nasty mercury related ills.

it's real good stuff, not sure I want to eat it though.

did you know that when John Wayne the cowboy actor guy, died,and was autopsied, they discovered he had been carrying around 40 or 50 pounds of crap in his colon? and that was long before blessedherbs ever existed, they probably could have helped him a lot.

40 or 50 pounds of crap. highly doubtful it was from his last meal or few.

and his doctor never knew it was there.

If I relied on doctors to keep me well... well, I wouldn't be here i'd be dead. When my kidneys felt like they were going to explode after a lousy dentsist sent a huge load of mercury into my syetem... dr dentists told me... nothing was wrong.

truly, I would be dead if I had listened to them. and truly to this day i still wonder if they were trying to kill me, of course they will never admit that but they came very close. Either they were idiots or murderers choose one because there really aren't any other choices.

colon cleansing was the very first thing that began to help me. because I need to poop!!! then of course chelation, another item many doctors don't believe is useful.


Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30193
05/27/08 03:14 PM
05/27/08 03:14 PM
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I wish I had the money to try and see if these things work for me

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30194
05/27/08 03:38 PM
05/27/08 03:38 PM
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Lucky those who have.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30195
05/27/08 03:50 PM
05/27/08 03:50 PM
SoSick  Offline
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an enema bag costs about $12 bucks. and a quart of bentonite clay about $10 bucks.

hardly out of reach even for the poorest of us.

I think I paid about $8 bucks for a big container of psyllium when i did use that. but it's not necessary.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30196
05/27/08 03:56 PM
05/27/08 03:56 PM
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well i'll tell u things are not as cheap in poland - maybe exept the enema bag - as they are in us, for simple reasons, there's not much market for it. an it's not like the only things we sick people have to rely on.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30197
05/27/08 04:28 PM
05/27/08 04:28 PM
SoSick  Offline
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honestly jinx, it's just your negativity getting in the way of everything you see. Poland is not expensive, and it's a widely known fact that some of the most affordable dental care in europe is availabe in Poland. you get things for half the price we pay elsewhere. and they also have integrative med docs. here is one right here:

http://drkulisz.pl/

quit being so negative and you might learn something. and do something about yourself.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30198
05/27/08 04:39 PM
05/27/08 04:39 PM
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poland IS cheap for someone coming from us. bu the earnings we have here are a coudple of times lower then western europe or us. so taking earnibgs/costs of living ratio under consideration Polish people are MUCH POORER compared to US/western europe.

have u thought of that?

I guess not because with every post u keep being judgemental as if u knew all the facts.

thanx for the link never saw that when browsing the net and searching for integrative med docs. but u probably say i was lazy enought not to notice, no this is jwhat happens when u're demneted, you're missing things. not that I expect u to understand that. thx for the link again, i'll check it out.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30199
05/28/08 03:12 AM
05/28/08 03:12 AM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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My doctors completely and utterly let me down. How could they send me home saying I should learn to live with the pain? Repeatedly! And at other times tell me I was in great health, totally ignoring the troubles I had. The day I lost my temper, the day they pissed me off so badly by telling me to go home and enjoy my “good health” was a great day, because it forced me ignore them and try and figure things out myself. Which I did.

The reason for this scam accusation on mucoid plaque is probably because sometimes the psyllium takes to shape of the bowel and remains in that shape when it comes out. You can tell the difference because its not hard and not rubbery.

But that does not stop it working by removing lots of toxic stuff and removing real mucoid plaque. That gunk is real because its come out of me.

I love the following list of Conventional wisdoms....this applies just as much to Engalnd as it does America.

CONVENTIONAL WISDOM

Conventional wisdom that has mass acceptance is usually contrived: somebody paid for it. Examples:

*Pharmaceuticals restore health
*Vaccination brings immunity
*The cure for cancer is just around the corner
*Menopause is a disease condition
*When a child is sick, he needs immediate antibiotics
*When a child has a fever he needs Tylenol
*Hospitals are safe and clean.
*America has the best health care in the world.
*Americans have the best health in the world.
*Milk is a good source of calcium.
*You never outgrow your need for milk.
*Vitamin C is ascorbic acid.
*Aspirin prevents heart attacks.
*Heart drugs improve the heart.
*Back and neck pain are the only reasons for spinal adjustment.
*No child can get into school without being vaccinated.
*The FDA thoroughly tests all drugs before they go on the market.
*Pregnancy is a serious medical condition
*Infancy is a serious medical condition
*Chemotherapy and radiation are effective cures for cancer
*When your child is diagnosed with an ear infection, antibiotics should be given immediately 'just in case'
*Ear tubes are for the good of the child.
*Estrogen drugs prevent osteoporosis after menopause.
*Pediatricians are the most highly trained of al medical specialists.
*The purpose of the health care industry is health.
*HIV is the cause of AIDS.
*AZT is the cure.
*Without vaccines, infectious diseases will return
*Fluoride in the city water protects your teeth
*Flu shots prevent the flu.
*Vaccines are thoroughly tested before being placed on the Mandated Schedule.
*Doctors are certain that the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any possible risks.
*Chronic pain is a natural consequence of aging.
*Soy is your healthiest source of protein.
*Insulin shots cure diabetes.
*After we take out your gall bladder you can eat anything you want
*Allergy medicine will cure allergies.
*This is a list of illusions, that have cost billions to conjure up.

Did you ever wonder why most people in this country generally accept most of the above statements?

http://thedoctorwithin.com/doors/Doors-of-Perception.shtml




"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30200
05/29/08 02:00 AM
05/29/08 02:00 AM
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an enema bag costs about $12 bucks. and a quart of bentonite clay about $10 bucks.

hardly out of reach even for the poorest of us.

I think I paid about $8 bucks for a big container of psyllium when i did use that. but it's not necessary.

<img src="http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/cochufa/bank.jpg">
I usually go from paycheck to paycheck and eat ramen noodles/chicken and spend the rest hoping some supplements will help me. Cutting it kinda close this month since everything was more expensive with the domino effect from gas.



As for those enema bags, they sell them in every pharmacy right? And I have heard good things about coffee enema but I have no idea how that would even work

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque #30201
06/07/08 09:19 PM
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Dr. Richard Anderson has already proven that mucoid plaque is demonstrated in the conventional medical literature, but medical doctors are too stupid to recognize it. To see for yourself, go to the following blog: http://mucoidplaque.blogspot.com/

On this blog, you will find a photogragh of mucoid plaque taken from a conventional atlas of pathology, endoscopy pictures showing mucoid plaque on the walls of the intestines taken from a conventional textbook of gastroenterology, as well as anatomical studies describing mucoid plaque from conventional medical journals. It might be useful against so-called skeptics.




Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Sunshine P] #37472
07/15/08 07:15 PM
07/15/08 07:15 PM
Jeanie  Offline
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Well - its mucousy gunk lining your colon from the reaction your digestive tract has to things your body doesn't want in it to protect it. The small intestine also lines with it and it causes digestive problems after a while. I can eat some foods and can tell if they don't agree cause I get an immediate mucousy gunky feeling. Thanks for sharing that picture : ) I desperately need to cleanse. I use to do it regularly. Worked for a wholistic D.O and his naturopath wife back in the 1980s and learned a lot... I think its why I'm as well off as I am now even with the mercury, etc. I needed to read this. My food and general allergies are bad now. I could probably even ease off some meds if I just detoxed. IMO you really need to detox before or at least in between chelating or the, excuse the pun, crap can't get out literally and figuratively : )


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: mucoid plaque (peri-menopausal anyone?) [Re: Jeanie] #37473
07/15/08 07:26 PM
07/15/08 07:26 PM
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Sorry...I just read the first post (and not all the way through) with the picture so thought I was actually answering your question.... Didn't realize there were so many afterward.

It is downright inspiring actually! I feel gunked up right now. I eat well overall but need to make a conscious effort to detox. I have to take too much medication and know its bad for me. My ph is off, too.

I like your picture (of Luke Skywalker) by the way. On the note of your mass information list of medical fallacies, is anyone else on here peri-menopausal?? Hot flashes anyone?


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Veganman] #37475
07/15/08 07:32 PM
07/15/08 07:32 PM
Jeanie  Offline
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I've heard, like after my husband got a colonoscopy, that the garbage build up just isn't there, but i don't believe it. I also knew an orthopedic surgeon who didn't believe chiropractors could move bones in the back cause he didn't see how they could from having seen inside our anatomy doing surgery. (Said the ligaments, etc. were too strong). Hogwash! I went to church with him and debated it with him, perhaps not with any other intelligence other than that HE never helped me! I see an orthogonal chiropractor, now, and my 14 degree "scoliosis" is now down to a slight curvature between my shoulder blades and my legs are the same length - and my pelvic obliquity is gone which I had for over 20 years! Back to the point, I only get a flat tummy after a cleanse or when I'm quite...cleaned out. (Lovely subject "matter" : )


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #37501
07/16/08 12:21 PM
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Hi Jeanie....i been continually cleansing for 10 months now. I rotate all the different cleanses all the time as well as chelating and after 10 months i still get that gunk, as per the top picture, comming out....takes a long time to clean out the insides.
i am much better than i was. much much better...but still some way to go.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Sunshine P] #37513
07/16/08 07:41 PM
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Good for you! Seriously - inspiring. Don't mean it weird but kind of addicting isn't it to cleanse? You feel more sensitive to what stuff does to you. Do you have blood sugar issues? I use that as an excuse now, but know better.. Could fix them if I get my act together. I'm having a talk with myself about it.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #37594
07/18/08 04:33 PM
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lol

yes, that feeling of healing is..... oh so addictive.

I will post my progress on a fresh thread.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Sunshine P] #37928
07/24/08 09:12 PM
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Everything coming out all right??? (Sorry - feeling goofy - couldn't resist).


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #37963
07/25/08 08:39 AM
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i got more nasty pics if you don't watch out i will post em up.....coming out just fine!


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Sunshine P] #38004
07/25/08 08:36 PM
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LOL : ) I can't believe you are in London and never heard of Paul Rogers. He's played with Jimmy Page (I suppose you never heard of Led Zeppelin either?) in the Firm a decade or so ago. You must be young : ) My husband who is even older than me makes me watch old videos on YouTube all the time. I like Jeff Beck, too. Killer melodic guitar. British rock is the best! If your tastes are more refined that is fine, too. I love all music really. Love Vince Gill...(country superstar over here whom I've met a few times as the hubby knows and use to play and live with the drummer dragging him out to Hollywood with his wife). True ear candy!!! I am not a groupie either. I feel most spiritual listening to Josh Groban. He sings half his stuff in Italian. My kids boyfriend actually likes opera. (Not "actually" but more rare for a kid). I love Mott the Hoople (British) too. But then this isn't a music forum is it? I get excited meeting people from over there, though. Made a fool of myself when I talked to the guy selling t-shirts at Paul Roger's concert here. He's toured with Queen, too. Can't believe you haven't heard of him. Oh well... My ancestors come from England, Scotland and Ireland! I think France, too, on my mom's dad's side. We're a bunch of mutts over here for the most part.

I can take some pics of my excrements sometime for you.... : )


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #38009
07/25/08 10:25 PM
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Maybe you should just get a 12 pack of toilet tissue, throw it all over your house and the trees in your yard, spray some water on it with a hose so it sticks real good and then send us a photo of that.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: SoSick] #38010
07/25/08 10:39 PM
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I can take a hint...


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #38012
07/25/08 10:41 PM
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My neighbors were just TP'd... I could take a photo of that for you if you are into such things : ) ??????????

Sorry...getting tired. Ache too much to do much and am bored waiting for hubby to get home from gigging.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #38016
07/25/08 10:46 PM
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They must be quite popular.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: SoSick] #38018
07/25/08 10:51 PM
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you might want to just ignore the aches and run over there with a hose and offer to help clean it up. I'm sure they'd appreciate it.

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: SoSick] #38025
07/25/08 11:27 PM
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That would be nice of me wouldn't it? I'm afraid in my present state I might keel over of heat prostration, however. (And I have a brewing UTI to boot) Haven't been drinking enough for the night sweats. Hormones kicking in. Not getting much break there these days.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: SoSick] #38026
07/25/08 11:28 PM
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Either that or we have some hoodlums in the neighborhood. Lots of teens....


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #38088
07/26/08 05:07 PM
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i been through many music phases....heavy metal, AC/DC, iron maiden, Metalica.....lots of differnt chillout stuff, pink floyd, Jimmy Hendrik, drum n bass, acid house, deep house, hard house, funky house, tech house, house house, Techno, Minimal, progressive house. Was even heavily into ambient for a long time. when my health was really totally screwed up and i had no idea what to do....i'd sit for hours listening to weird ambient doodling....gets quite addicitive....listening to ambient with heavy duty brain fog....

I'm an ex-raver, in fact i'm ex- lots and lots of things, i still have decks too, but house music and all it's varients are my love right now.







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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Sunshine P] #38091
07/26/08 05:50 PM
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Not sure what house stuff is...? Some days I feel the need to blast Paul Roger's DVD (Live at Glasgow - I love his band - the bass player reminds me of my dearly departed brother who played bass and looked like him in some ways), but think maybe I'm getting that hyperacusis thing. My daughter (youngest) turns up the radio, etc., but it hurts my ears and head. Pretty melodic stuff makes me feel calmer at this point. My husband has written some pretty guitar stuff...(what's it called when its just music without the singing...). My daughter writes and composes, too. Paul is just an amazing singer... Rather sexy actually. Shame on me.... Its descent stuff though. Not raunchy.

Is raving the same thing as mosh pitting? I think music does affect us a lot. I love Josh Groban... Its spiritual actually. But romantic, too. There have been studies on how music affects our nervous system.


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #38108
07/27/08 03:00 AM
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Moshing refers to the activity in which audience members at live music performances aggressively push or slam into each other. Moshing is frequently accompanied by stage diving, crowd surfing, and headbanging. It is commonly associated with concerts by heavy metal, punk rock, and alternative rock artists.


nope, mosh pitting is nothing to do with me….

If u never heard of raving, then 100pct guranteed you’d hate it….this is what I’m talking about……raving…hot, dark, loud, sweaty…all night dancing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tkkCKtHOFI&feature=related

oh…found another good example….i was actually at this party…was the closing party of my old club that closed in march……this kinda captures the ….ahhhh…yes…..wildness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lURDCVcnpN8&feature=related

but I am very much an ex-raver now;-(




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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Sunshine P] #38109
07/27/08 07:01 AM
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I think sometimes we have a better appreciation for mild after being wild : ) My daughter's friend likes to mosh.... I was pretty young when I changed my wild ways so didn't have much true....uh, experience. Tried enough to know I guess you could say. : )


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Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: Jeanie] #38111
07/27/08 10:46 AM
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I like your photo Jeanie... is that the moanin Lisa?

Re: Parasite & bowel cleanse & mucoid plaque [Re: SoSick] #38119
07/27/08 01:54 PM
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Why thank you!


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