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I've been working on planning a candida regimen and I've found a good website which recommends a parasite cleanse and a liver flush.

I know some people here do these kinds of things but I know nothing about them, when they are safe to do, how to do them, why to do them, etc. Can anyone help, or is there a good link or book you can steer me to?

Thanks.

Hi Linda….

Oh yes…I know all about this……

http://curezone.com/diseases/health.asp

This is a good place to start learning. Read through this web page and then click the blue links which then lead more detail about what you specifically want to learn about.

Also note the preferred order of cleanses.

1. Bowel cleanse and Parasite cleanse !
2. Dental cleanup - dental work may be one cofactor of your disease: amalgam, Root canal, Nickel crowns, Cavitations (pocket inside jaw bone left after extraction of the wisdom and molar teeth )
3. Kidney cleanse
4. Start cleansing your liver: Liver cleanse and Gallbladder cleanse -liver flush!

The reason for the order is because what goes before makes what goes after much much easier. Note the liver flush is last. Reason for this is because it is a very powerful cleanse. Your health will get much better doing a liver flush, but it is heavy duty, i.e puts your body under a lot of strain because it is so powerful. The bowel, parasite, kidney cleanses all prepare your body for big heavy duty liver flush.

Curezone also has excellent forums for all the cleanses. You can learn all about how people do the cleanses and there reactions from those forums. People do and discuss these cleanses everyday.

You did not mention a Bowel cleanse. A bowel cleanse is really easy and can be done at the same time as a parasite cleanse. If you are gonna do parasite cleanses you 100pct need to do bowel cleanses too. 100pct. Its easy anyway.

Bowel cleanses involve taking capsules of herbs every day for upto 30 days.
Parasite cleanses involve taking capsules of herbs every day for upto 30 days.
Kidney cleanse involves drinking a herbal tea everyday for 20-30 days.
Liver flush is a bit more preparation and will take out 1 weekend. You will find instruction on Curezone but this should ideally be done last. You will need to be near a toilet! LOL

As you can see they are really simple things to do….taking a few herbs.
(For bowel cleanses you can also do enema’s and colonics if you wish, but I find taking a few caps of herbs much simpler.)

The herbs in the bowel cleanse swell up to 50 times there normal size and clean your digestive tract.
The herbs in parasite cleanse kill unwanted parasites, fungus, bacteria.

You will find a mass of information and products for each cleanse. The amount of choice is bewildering and makes choosing a product tricky. Too much choice!

I only have experience with a few products, but I had glorious success with the products I used and will recommend. I researched each heavily and made a choice to use herbs and not chemicals. I used small companies with proven results, not large companies with lots of marketing. If you read the Humaworm site and then compare it to other companies you will see a big difference. Humaworm try to educate you, other companies just want you to buy their products and I found limited info from other big named companies. Also the freshness of the herbs is very important which small companies like Humaworm provide and I think it very important.

The good news is the bowel cleanse and the parasite cleanse can be combined together. The herbs used are all mixed together. You just take 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps in the evening everyday for 30 days. wham bam thank you mama….two for the price of one…just taking these herbs and that’s your bowel cleanse and parasite cleanse done.

Wherewith the Humaworm formula and what each herb does.

http://www.humaworm.com/formula.html

I suggest you read the Humaworm site top to bottom. It is a good place to start learning about why to parasite cleanse. The support they give is excellent. They have a forum on Curezone and there are lots of people discussing whats happening on their cleanses, what to do and how to do it. All importantly…..other people doing the same thing and sharing their experiences so you can decide if you want to do it too.

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=757

If you spend an hour reading through the forum you will find it very interesting…..may I also suggest you search “candida” under the Humaworm forum…..even more interesting!

For kidney cleanse…I used this company and these herbs. http://presentmoment.com/product_in...;osCsid=7cfa092f28909d7d13314660e6ec7e42
Andreas Moritz is a bit of a legend in cleansing and his books are all very good reads. Life changing books really.

Ok…that’s prolly more than enough to get you started. Anymore questions fire away.

I have done all the cleanses repeatedly and after each I get a little bit more better. When I did my first Humaworm parasite cleanse I got gigantically better very quickly. I am currently doing a bowel cleanse from Humaworm in which I continue to get black gunk coming out of me and I continue feeling better and better.

Note: yes Humaworm is in USA. Postage is the same world wide. Delivery take 2 weeks. Each order is made freshly to order. If you have a problem with one of the ingredients you can ask them to exclude that herb. For example, I have a sulphur problem and need to avoid all sulphur foods…so I exclude garlic from my Humaworm formula. Cost is the same.

With the dollar pound exchange rate, I find the Humaworm herbs almost embarrassingly cheap compared to the result I had from them. $30 for a 1 month parasite cleanse incl postage….thats £15.00

Sunshine

on your recommendation I bought the Humaworm parasite cleanse a while back. It's still sitting on my shelf because I am scared at what might be unleashed. I am very sensitive, and herx from one sachet of Three Lac, so goodness knows what something like this might do. My adrenals are also very weak, and anything tends to knock them. I am having a break from chelation at present, so this would be a good time to do the cleanse. Got any words of courage?? Can I go at half dose?

Nicola

Hi Imgeha.

Firstly, Humaworm should be stored in the fridge. Those herbs need to be kept as fresh as possible and the cold keeps ‘em nice n fresh.

Taking the first step is always the most difficult step, doesn’t matter how young or old you are…the first time for anything is scary, be it the first kiss, first drink or first enema! Its always scary that first time. Sometimes its best to “just do it!” I used to just jump in the deep end with this kinda stuff…I love doing new things…but then I got sick…then I got even sicker and then even sicker still and I found that jumping in the deep end was a recipe for disaster. I got hurt by some well meaning doctors and NP’s. After that I realised I had to change, no more “just do it” things.

Now I have to read up and research everything I do. Every supplement I take, every cleanse I do….i research and make sure I understand, as best I can, that this is actually what I want to do. I know the expected results and what might go wrong. This is the only way I have discovered, in my ill-health, that is safe for me to do these very very new and strange concepts.

I recommend you to learn about parasite cleanses, learn about what happens to people on these cleanses. Some people have fantastic results, some people get nothing whatsoever, some people have crazy symptoms on these cleanses(I did). The more you learn the easier it becomes, until you are so excited you can’t wait for something to change, you can’t wait to get some of the joy people feel when they start healing and for your health to start getting better….thats what these cleanses do….they clean you out and put your body in a better position to heal itself.

Where do you find all this out?

Go along to Curezone Humaworm thread and read. Dedicate some quality time to really understanding whats happening and why these cleanses are so important.
If you read the forum it is littered with people saying “wow” and “thanks” and “god damn I’m so much better, thank you thank you thank you.”

Or if you like I could say….”just do it!” but I don’t want anyone to “just do it”, I’d much prefer people to learn then “want to do it.”

Go back to the Humaworm website and reread the formula. Most of these herbs are common or garden herbs. It tells you what each herb does. (what other company does that?)

I must just say I do not work for Humaworm! The reason I champion it so much is because I am getting better and better and Humaworm has a lot of the credit for that. The results I have had totally and utter turned my life around. I was really ill and these herbs started me healing when nothing else did.

My mother was very ill. She had something called lichen planus. The western doctors sent her home, said it was incurable and she would have to live with it. It was a nightmare, her whole body was covered in hard mega itchy black lumps….the doctor sent her home!!!!! She was didn’t know what to do. I sat down with her for about 5 hours and talked about everything I know and persuaded her to do a Humaworm cleanse. This is my Mum here, she has zero knowledge of alternative health!….it took a lot of talking and research. But in the end she understood and decided to give it a go….. I saw her this weekend, for the first time since she finished the cleanse a couple of months ago. Its all gone. She is cured. She is over-the-moon happy! She has a appointment with her doctor next week….she is so excited….she has printed out all the info and is greatly looking forward to telling him that she cured herself. Or more correctly she cleansed her body, which was then in a better position to heal itself.
My Mum had zero symptoms….she just got better. She is now doing the kidney cleanse I mention above and then in April she will be doing a second round of Humaworm to make sure she got everything. She is greatly enjoying her newfound good health.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1126215#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1126203#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1130691#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1127921#i

If you think these posts are made up by Humaworm to generate sales…look up my posts….I know they are real.

But…..at some point you are gonna have to just do it!

Lower dose? not sure about that, you would have to ask on Curezone. But….i’d say not. Humaworm works in a low dosage, frequent dosing stylee. You take a few herbs very often. Every day for 30 days. slowly the herbs build up in your body until at the end you body is…..saturated (prolly not the right word, but will do for now)……saturated with those cleansing herbs , cleaning & flushing out all those horrid toxins.

Anyway……this is going on a bit long. I have massively benefited from HW, turned my life around, so has my Mum, so have all those other people on Curezone, and you can too…..if you take the caps!

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Errrmmmm……this is rather powerful stuff……..from the owner of Humaworm, RG.

This is a copy of a post I made about a year ago dealing with the subject of "scattering parasites". This is a term that was not coined by me - but the information in this post is still worthwile and can benefit parasite cleansing newbies:

"""First of all, this whole scattering thing has become a personal thing from a poster towards me. In case you don't know this, my personal experience in the parasite cleansing field is very long and very complete. My great-grandmother was full-blooded Choctaw Indian - her father - my great-great grandfather was the tribal "medicine man". My own grandmother was half Choctaw and she possessed CENTURIES worth of herbal knowledge. This is how I learned what I know.

Through the years I have dealt with ALL aspects of parasites and their removal. Not only have I helped pull tapeworms - I have identified parasites for folks who have sent me their stool in plastic bags - I have helped cure - YES CURE - folks ALL OVER THE WORLD. What I know, I have learned from EXPERIENCE. Not from THEORIES, reading books or GUESSING. I know from real life and from real folks.

I have been helping folks for DECADES. Long before computers were ever used - long before the internet, websites or CureZone. If you even think for one second that you are the first to call me a QUACK or a scam artist - then brother, you are wrong. I have heard it whispered behind my back and shouted to my face LONG before now.

I keep going because I know what I do helps folks. I think about the 4 year old boy who was so full of worms that he was almost DEAD before his mama discovered parasite cleansing - DEAD. He is now 18 years old and still sends me a Christmas card every year. I think about the lady who was so mentally stricken from a long-standing parasite infection that her husband was at the point of comitting her - not to mention the fact that she smelled so bad that no one could stand to be around her. She wanted to commit suicide. A year (and 3 parasite cleanses) later - she was HEALED. Back to her old self. Her husband sent me a $10,000.00 check of gratitude - which I promptly sent back. This was 20 years ago. I could write a BOOK full of stories like these.

It is not about the money - after payroll, taxes and overhead - I don't make squat from HUMAWORM. I make money from my cattle. To be honest - I could charge what I please for HUMAWORM and thousands of folks would gladly pay it - but in my opinion, that is wrong.

Which brings us to this subject. You also need to educate yourself on delusional parasitis. This is when a person THINKS they have parasites ALL of the time. This can happen in one of two ways. #1 they are hypocondriacs (sp) to begin with and jumping on the "unseen parasite" bandwagon gives them a good ailment to have #2 a person discovers they have parasites and can't deal with it - they then become OBSESSED with worms living in their bodies. TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY CRAZILY OBSESSED. This in turn will cause them to completely OVERLOAD on parasite killing. Then they create resistance that, in some cases, are just about impossible to remove.

Through the years I have dealt with both. The second being more pitiful than the first. This brings us to the "scattering" subject. First of all, it is a well known fact that parasites will try to migrate to a part of the body that is not being treated for parasites. BUT - they will return to where they need to be in order to continue their life cycle. This is WHY a complete parasite cleansing formula is needed. If you just use something for intestinal parasites - then you are missing all of the others.

Every herb, root, bark, flower, leaf and so on contains CHEMICALS. These chemicals work in different ways in different parts of the body. Herb ARE DRUGS! Period. If they are used incorrectly then yes - a person is asking for trouble. The wrong dose of herbs and/or the wrong combination can cause harm and even DEATH. This is WHY my formula is at the strength that it is. Too much can harm or kill - just like any other drug! Then again, too little can cause resistance.

Parasites can live ALL OVER the human body. Blood, skin, brain, eyes, hands, feet, legs, liver, stomach, and so forth and so on. Let's take worms that live in the feet for example: As long as they are NOT being disturbed, then they live peacefully. Yes - they will cause sickness, but they go about their life cycles without the host being AWARE of their presence. Only when they are being KILLED will they put up a fight. This is when they can be felt. They have been there the ENTIRE time - this is when they can be SEEN moving around just under the skin on the feet and legs. They did not just MOVE down to the legs from another part of the body - they were there ALL ALONG. Their movement indicates that they are trying to escape from death - but there is no escape. They will either break the skin to exit the body - or they will die in the skin and the body will break down and remove their dead carcass. This removal of filth is why it is also VERY IMPORTANT to have toxin removing herbs in a formula. The toxins will make a person sicker than the parasites themselves.

Humans hosting parasites is an old, well-debated subject. Some folks believe it and others don't. That is a personal choice. I believe in individuality and personal choices. You want to drink urine? O.K. - that is your choice, I will not say it is right or wrong. You want to be a vegetarian? O.K. You want to eat fast food every day of your life? Fine. I was NOT put on this Earth to judge other people for they choose to do or not to do. I also don't believe in having folks judge me. I am who I am and I do what I do to the very best of my ability. I by no means know everything, I learn everyday - but I do know a thing or two about parasites and herbs to remove them. I also will never steer a person wrong - I like sleeping soundly at night. I could not live with myself if I harmed another soul.

I will not address this subject again."""

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1125626#i

I guess it's boring now….but here with some more…..i find these posts so very motivational

Quote from “Fledgling”

At one time I thought it might be useful to use the 'in-betweens' first, for a short while, if one were 'chicken' to begin....though I don't know anyone who has tried this.

Another point I'd like to make, especially for anyone who is 'chicken', is that those two tiny capsules of each Humaworm dosage contain 25 herbs!

I find it amazing that Humaworm is so effective, with only a trace of each herb in each capsule!

Depending on your body, many people think it isn't 'doing' anything, at first. (Hee-hee.)

However, I am the biggest 'chicken' around here...well, I was...and I'm here to tell you that this is the most fun since Hector, the pup, got his tail caught in the kitchen screen door!

Read this forum, my friends...you'll see people come on here asking questions...then, after a while, excited to start.

Excited? Even with their parasites screaming, "No" and putting out all the poisons they can manage, to maintain the status quo?

You bet!

Every cell in our bodies knows its job and how to be well...and is attracted to exactly what it needs, the way I see it.


Besides, R.G. cares, and he is a smart cookie. Read at humaworm.com ...at least twice. It's like no other website you'll ever see. He even gives the formula!

This is a guy you can trust.

He's done at least 100 rounds of Humaworm in total, twice a year, since he was two years old. He knows what he is talking about!

Be of stout heart, everyone.

Fledgling


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Oh WOW, thank you for all that info, Sunshine. I was not bored a bit...I think it's fascinating. I can't wait to go to the links and read some more.

I'm on day 15th of the humaworm cleanse. I'm seeing lots and lots of what I think are liver flukes, clear stringy things, a hard lumpy tear shaped type thing and lots of white spotty things. EWWWWWWWWwwwww. And you should see my face while I'm typing this I'm sure I look revolted hahaha. But I was hoping that the cleanse would be a success so I'm very pleased with this result. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/apple.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grabbedbythetoilet.gif" alt="" />

I am seriously perturbed by the fact that everyone, EVERYONE, who does a parasite cleanse discovers that they have lots of worms... worms.. not itty bitty little microscopic parasites but WORMS.

It seems to be an epidemic. Something is seriously and deeply wrong with this picture of glorious modern lifestyle health the AMA has been delivering to me for so many years.

Hi SoSick, I think humans have always had parasites. The difference is now we tend to ignore that fact whereas in the past it was common to do cleanses a couple of times year. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/takingpills.gif" alt="" />

I am currently reading a book called 'wild health - how animals keep themselves well and what we can learn from them;. There is a whole chapter on parasites. Many wild animals have methods of dealing with parasites and will actually self medicate. Eg gorillas will eat certain compounds that are harmful to parasites when they have them. I think it was Jane Goodall that observed chimpanzees ingesting large quantities of indigestible leaves - the leaves have tiny hooks which actually grab hold of certain parasites and pull them from the body! Birds line their nests with parasite-resistant herbs in the wild. It's a fascinating book and yes we can learn a lot from animals and how they maintain their health in their natural environment. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bird.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/chickflutter.gif" alt="" />

Domesticated animals or wild animals that are in captivity get sicker a lot more often than wild animals in their natural environment. Obviously there are many many reasons for this but one is because they do not have access to the substances they would use to self medicate in the wild. Successive generations also loose this knowledge because it is not innate but passed down by the animals parents through observation.

Humans also had ways of dealing with parasites and regular parasite cleanses, but as we know modern medicine isn't so great on the preventative side of things. We are like the domesticated animals <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cow.gif" alt="" /> - we have lost the wisdom and knowledge about natural healing that would have otherwise been passed down through generations. No longer is our health information based on many hundreds or even thousands of years of knowledge and experience that are passed down through generations. Instead most people now have very little knowledge and so are reliant on doctors and pharmaceutical drugs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/looney.gif" alt="" />

Hi Mom, thanks for not being bored! I love reading posts from people that are healing and getting better. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hugmebig.gif" alt="" />

Congratulations Cmlyon! Top stuff.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/coolthumbsup.gif" alt="" /> glad its working out so well so far…and you are only half way….I wonder what’s gonna happen after another 15 days of those herbs? How are you feeling? Better? Worse? Average?

I like your wise words, I agree with everything you said.
About domesticated pets: One of the reasons they are not in great health is because of the diet they eat. Modern processed man made pet food is usually from the bottom of the food chain and full of unnatural foods for pets. Feed pets quality natural diet and they will flourish. My cats are on a raw meat diet and they are extremely health moggies. So healthy that they do not cause people with cat allergies to be allergic to them.

Sos: It does make me question our glorious lifestyle too…how long can the western lifestyle continue like this?<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" />

Sunshine, this is all great info. I'm going to order Humaworm for myself and my daughter. I've bookmarked the site, along with CureZone. Funny, I'd just been browsing some candida discussions at CureZone before I read your reply here. I think I already talk on more forums than I usually have time for so I doubt if I'll get involved there -- I don't like the format either -- but it looks like it's going to be a very useful all-round alt med resource.

Thanks for all the advice, and I will follow it. Would be handy to have these things in a book. I don't suppose the owner of Humaworm has written any?

You say the kidney cleanse is done with tea. Would that be the Hu-Mana Tea from Humaworm?

Thanks Sunshine. I'm pleasantly disgusted .. i mean surprised by the whole thing. For some reason I didn't think it would work for me since I've never noticed any difference in taking any sort of herb or supplement for anything. I'm still not 100% convinced about the liver flukes. They do a look a like tomato skins but they are not something I would normally see and there were lots of them with every BM today so I guess they are flukes??. I think I even saw a few of them during the first few days of the cleanse but at the time I just assumed it was tomato. OK no more tomatoes for the next 15 days just to be sure!! I have only had an up close and personal inspection twice.. for the most part I've been a bit of wuss to be honest. Last night I thought I better just have a squizz and see what I could see. Today I didn't need to inspect too closely as the flukes were just floating to the top - LOVELY <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shockedeyes.gif" alt="" />

As far as how I am feeling - I am feeling GREAT. BUT.. the annoying thing is I started feeling great about 2 days before the cleanse so it's hard to know if the cleanse has effected they way I feel at all. Ideally I like to introduce things in slowly and see how I react but I got this real bad depression where I was crying uncontrollobaly at work and wanted to rip everyones head off and then go live a life as goat herder or hermit somewhere far faaaaaaaaaaar away (damn theres no little pictures of any goats that I can add <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> ). I almost quit my job just so I didn't have to be around people. Sooooooo I went into emergency mode and did all this stuff for my health all at once and the depression is gone for now woooo hoooo and I am feeling pretty darn good physically too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headdancer.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laughroll.gif" alt="" />

But it does mean that I'm not really sure how the humaworm has made me feel, I've seen the evidence that it's getting rid of stuff and the important thing is that I feel good, so I'm happy with that. To be honest I'd actually like to get some die off from this humaworm thing. It would be awesome if it had an effect on my Candida as I have that pretty bad. I know it has helped others quite a bit. I have been on an anti Candida diet for about 9 months so I've already lessened some of the symptoms quite a bit. i still have a ways to go though. I was hoping the humaworm would speed things up. We'll see.

Would you recommended doing a bowel cleanse after this? Or do you have to wait the 3 months to do the bowel cleanse as well?

Since you have read up so much on this stuff can you recommend any other detox that I can do with amalgams still in? From your post above you recommend the humaworm then dental work, but I'm not ready to get the amalgams out yet - first I want to improve thyroid and adrenal function or get on some sort of support for them.

Yes, I completely agree with what you say about diet and domestic animals. I read about 'the great raw meat experiment' and your cats. I think that is fantastic and it makes really interesting reading! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/goodjob.gif" alt="" /> There are lots of things that contribute to animals health and diet is of course a HUGGGGGGGGGE part of that!

I love reading about all the experimental stuff you have done for your health. I think it is fantastic and I've really been enjoying trying out different treatments too.

Hi Linda: I have not read a decent book about parasites. I have read a book about parasites, but it was about parasites and not how to get rid of them, so that’s no good.

Getting your daughter to do a round is a good idea too. I hope to be able to persuade my wife and kid one day……but its not possible at the moment.

Hu-Mana-tea is basically Essiac Tea which you may have heard of? Which is a old skool herbal Canadian cancer cure.( It is an amazing story about a lady called Rene Caisse. She was curing people with cancer left, right and centre in the 1930’s and the Canadian health authorities hounded her to the ground, stopping her from curing people…..a most amazing story, well worth the read. The story lives on after her death and people are still getting cured of cancer by these herbs. Most people only try it when all else has failed and they are on deaths door…and it still works.) I read up all about it and I’m currently taking this tea everyday, I have been for about 3 months now. To my mind, if it cures cancer it will prolly be good for me too, even though I don’t have cancer. If you google Essiac tea you will find lots of hits….but it is not a kidney cleanse….it is more of a heavy duty blood cleanser.

For kidney cleanse …I used this company and these herbs. http://presentmoment.com/product_in...;osCsid=7cfa092f28909d7d13314660e6ec7e42
Andreas Moritz is a bit of a legend in cleansing and his books are all very good reads. Life changing books really.

“Timeless secrets of health & rejuvenation” by Andreas mortiz is one of the Titans of health books. An amazing read. It opened my eyes to the alternative health world. It is very heavy duty. Not heavy in reading nor heavy in words, but heavy in the a sense that it covers SO many new ideas and new ways of looking at things, you learn SO much new stuff from just that one book. I think this book is one of the most comprehensive alt health book I have ever read, by a long margin. I remember shaking my head in wonder on almost every page. When he discusses the type of person I was…..Vatta, pitta, Kapha type….i literally fell off the chair…..he obviously don’t know me and he described my person…amazing stuff.

If you want to really learn about all the cleanses this is tell all. life changing words in that book.

Ohhhh…I found a review on amazon……quote

Imagine your self suffering from back pains, Migraines (since early teens), digestive problems, acid reflux, over weight, allergies to a wide variety of foods and environments, and then on your 50th birth day your doctor says – “you have a mild form of Arthritis, nothing serious this prescription will control your pain”. The thought of adding yet one more pharmaceutical drug to the already large list propelled me to seek answers elsewhere…
There are many approaches to alternative treatment/wellbeing and in my opinion there is no holy grail or a quick silver bullet, however if you make a commitment to get better and are willing to exercise some discipline then I think Timeless Secrets Of Health & Rejuvenation will not only pave the way for a full recovery but in the process will bring you closer to understanding yourself.
The author’s thesis is that the body - your physical state is designed to function and serve you well, it wants to continue to serve you well as per its design. Rather than assist our body to excel in its raison d’etre we often (through lack of knowledge) challenge it with use of harsh and harmful modern pharmaceutical drugs and our life style. Modern work ethic often insists on a quick fix of symptoms.
The book is packed with tons and tons of very useful information at all levels about gaining insight and knowledge about your physical state. The author combines his great insights into Ayurvedic Medicine with modern medicine to come up with a comprehensive text on health and wellbeing.
Whether you are a well individual looking for answers to health issues of your loved ones or an individual with a list of Chronic ailments such as Diabetes, Cystitis, Backache, Migraines, Constipation etc This book will not only set you on a path to recovery but also explains and enlighten you on the underlying causes of the ailment.
You may want to know what is good water and how much of it to drink per day. Honey can be used to treat wounds, Broccoli has Anti-Cancer properties, Celery is better than Viagra and much more on the amazing food & herb cures.
What is a splendid and healthy meal for one individual can be very upsetting for another equally healthy individually. The book explains why this is the case and goes much further – it shows you how to design a diet specific to you and your body needs.
If you want to learn about “modern” methods of cleansing your intestines using Colema Boards or Colonic Irrigation or gain knowledge about your Body Type within the 6000 yr old Ayurvedic System or learn something about today’s Medical practices it is all there in this one text.
A common thread in all of Andreas’s work is that Mind, Body and Spirit can not be viewed independently. They are all interrelated and one influences the other. Hence healing becomes a journey in which you get to understand your physical state through cleansing of vital organs such as Kidneys, Liver and Colon and simultaneously attending to your emotional and spiritual needs thro Meditation and Life Style changes & Diet. The book is a manual on how to achieve all this and more.
I no longer suffer from any of the ailments mentioned in the first paragraph. This book could truly change your life – it did mine!
unquote
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Timeless-Se...ks&qid=1205582585&sr=8-1

…..oh…..too long again! I can talk for hours on this subject….sorry

That is a fine way to explain it…..pleasantly disgusted…LOL.


– ahhhhhhhh! That is wonderful. Really good news and double & triple well done! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

Us mercury toxic people got too many things wrong with us! The way I see it, it’s not the “one thing” that makes all the difference, it’s doing as many different health regaining activities as possible…every little thing helps and collectively all these cleanses are very powerful. Its great to hear people benefiting SO much from the actions they took. I know how tricky it is to pluck up the courage to do them, but once you start getting results……its not so difficult anymore.

More cleanse to recommend to you? You should do a specific bowel cleanse, although Humaworm does have bowel cleaning herbs in it to. on my last parasite cleanse I did the bowel cleanse at the same time! Was cool!

You need to wait 90 days in-between parasite cleanses, but for bowel cleansing you can do it more often, every couple of months. I am inbetween parasite cleanses so I am doing the 1 month bowel cleanse in that time…gives me something to do. Seems to be real important for me as I am felling progressively better since I started the bowel cleanse. I continue to be pleasantly disgusted at what coming outa me. I don’t go fishing very often but when I do, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeick!

Have you done a kidney cleanse? Also very important. The one I have done I already mentioned it.

Castor oil packs?

Liver flushes?

Colonics?

Enema?

Lots of weird and wonderful stuff to get yr teeth into! All good.

Understanding Adrenals and thyroids is real important. Much more important that people initially think. As a bloke I had no idea….i thought I was all woman stuff…LOL! When you do start messing with the mercury, removal and then chelation, it is very stressful on them. Understanding them, knowing how to support them is very important. Makes a gigantic difference to your life. Cutler and Yahoo FDC say almost all mercury toxic people need to support these organs and especially so during chelation.
I found it very difficult to understand at first. Book after book I read and still I didn’t really get it. Then I started taking my temperature and read a decent book and then it suddenly kinda clicked and I get it now. I have just bought my 5th adrenal book to read……..

Errrm…yeah….LOL….i do enjoy all the experiments I do and I love hearing how others are getting on too. I learn so much from people telling of their successes and failures, much more so that some bloody lab report on pubmed. Give me real people getting better, right here, right now……that’s what I like.

My cats are awesome warriors! I just watched my cat stalking a black bird. He jumped 6 foot high from a sitting position to try and get it. Bird was too quick….but pretty cool to watch!

Right now, I’m reading all about raw milk. There is a raw milk fast that you can do that is supposed to be amazing. I have found a supply of raw milk to. Un-pasteurised – un-homogenized and pasture fed! Imagine that? Just drinking milk for 30 days! Not a hope in hell of that happening for me as not possible because I gotta go to work, but might see if I can sneak in a weeks fast. I have a mega bad milk allergy. Like really bad, still react too strongly to milk….but raw milk……that is supposed to be fine….anyways….early days…still reading the milk book.

For identifying UFO’s there are p[plenty of pics here…. http://curezone.com/ig/f.asp?f=16

I know cymlon, a lot of what you say is true... to a degree at least. But i guess what i mean is that doctors, aka the AMA do not generally make parasites a priority, and it's pretty obvious everyone really does have them, some even have whole bunches, and that is a great big problem and they spread it one to another... doctors ignore these basic things and people get sick and sicker and thy treat everything except the real cause and at a certain point, well it's too late.

Hulda Clark seems to think parasites are responsible for many many illnesses and I would tend to agree with her on that. But I have never heard a doctor ask... 'have you done a parsite cleanse?' and by now parasites are most obviously a hidden epidemic among us, thanks to doctors who tell people they are fine when in fact they are crawling with worms and spreading them... at home... at work... in the grocery store... at the butcher..,. at restaurants... you name it.

Linda

I've got my Humaworm in the cupboard but am scared to take it yet. I thought that my adrenals need to be stronger and my liver tests show it is not functioning well.

Good news on the adrenal and pituitary from Dr Peatfield, I slept well last night so can increase my dose today. To sleep better i gave up the cacao nibs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

Thanks again for this Sunshine, it's all wonderful stuff. I've put that book on my Amazon wish list. Just bought a few books from there and spent a bomb on Dr. Peatfield plus three tests, so it will have to wait a little while, but it will be next on my list. Looks like the sort of general alt med book I've been hoping to find for a couple of years now.

Thanks also for the link to the tea. It's really nice having you and Dr. Peatfield take some of the weight off my shoulders where all this is concerned, both of you making such good recommendations. This shouldn't be something we all have to do alone and it's great to be able to support each other. The more I learn myself, the more I'll be able to help others too.

BTW that tea says it cleanses the liver as well as the kidneys. I take it that it isn't such a heavy-duty liver cleanse as the one you mentioned in your first post?

Great stuff Mati. I can't remark on how hard the Humaworm will be on your system but maybe Sunshine can, or Dr. Peatfield? I imagine it would actually tax the liver harder than the adrenals but I'm certainly no expert.

Me, I'm too enthusiastic with this stuff. My candida supplements appear to be working a little too well and I'm feeling pretty crappy, so I'm going to ease up. On the positive side, this would suggest that there's actually some candida overgrowth there to create die-off, so I can hope that by eradicating it I might end up feeling better.

Thanks Sunshine.Yes we mercury toxic people do have too much wrong with us!

I checked the link you gave me. Yes those liver flukes look very familiar, i'm pretty sure that what I saw were liver flukes. And my gosh those brain worms look nasty!

I have ordered the bowel cleanse from humaworm. I will do that next after the para cleanse has finished. Can you resume supplements on the bowel cleanse? I'm glad that it has worked so well for you. With all that you are doing and with your awesome positive attitude you can't fail to get better!

No i haven't done any of those things you mentioned, all on the to investigate list. I'm a bit hesitant to try the liver flush as I've read there can be blockages when the stones start coming out? People have even been hospitlised and have had to have surgery due to the blockages?? I haven't really done much reading on it though, so perhaps the risks are overstated in my my mind??

Yeah thyroid and adrenal problems seem to be very common with us mercury burdened folk. My labs do not make any sense really in that department so I'm not taking anything presently for them. My obvious adrenal and thyroid symptoms have cleared up soo much in the last few months. So I'm going to continue detox and supporting with supplements and then see how my labs look in a few months. Since I feel so good right now I don't want to mess around with Armour if there is even a slight chance that it might mess my adrenals up!! and i can't take adrenal support with armour because cortisol is high rather than low, so taking some supplements to help lower that that. I have just finished 10 weeks acupuncture and I think that may have contributed to getting rid of the depression and may well have helped to lower cortisol as well. We shall see - to be continued!

Are you on any thyroid/adrenal support at the moment?

Wow a 30 day milk fast sounds interesting! I'm not sure that I would do that since I have a horrible reaction to diary. But yes raw milk is supposed to be very very different to supermarket milk which is not really even a food after it has been processed to death! But wouldn't you get very hungry on a fast like that? I couldn't see myself lasting more than a few hours lol. I know that the weston price foundation are running a campaign for raw milk... here is the link if you haven't seen the pamphlet:
http://www.westonaprice.org/brochures/RealMilkTrifold.pdf

One thing that I'm sure has really helped me are a set of 5 exercises that i do each morning. I will post this in a separate post as I'm sure other will be interested. You start off doing 3 repeititons of each and work your way up to 21. I got to 21 on Saturday.

The book is filled with testimonials from people who have reversed their greying hair, arthritis, improved memory and eyesight, look 10 years younger, and well loads more. I was a little skeptical of all these wild claims but if you look the book up on Amazon you see the same sort of comments from people!

I've been wanting to do yoga in the morning for a while so I thought I'd try these exercises instead since there are only 5 to learn.

I know that is has contributed to my energy levels of late and thats enough for me even if I don't quite look like a 19 yr old again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> But i was starting to get grey hairs (ok only two but enough to freak me out) and they seemed to have darkened, in fact I can't even find them right now, maybe they are gone! Possibly if I was just doing yoga i would feel just as good.. who knows.

A few months ago I found a link to a free online version of the book so when I find that I will post the details.

Yes SOS you are completely right. It's pretty disgusting to that we can pick up parasites just about anywhere in public. And so many people would feel so much better if they did regular cleanses. I'm not at all surprised that doctors choose to ignore the problem unfortunately.

Hi cmlyon

I am taking adrenal support, in the form of bovine adrenal cortex and pituitary, for just under one week now and am seeing good results, though i had trouble sleeping the first few days. My temperature is rising, it was in the 35's and is now up in the 36's on waking. I can't tell if i am feeling better as I had a bad fall in town the other day, my ankle went over and I fell onto the pavement as i was hurrying to avoid a bus. I wonder if it had something to do with the prior visit to my dentists as i was thinking of using him to get an extraction done?

I am building up on the adrenal ext. for a month then I will be starting on either Armour or Westhoid (sp?) after an adrenal test. My doctor says that I should have had this help a long time ago. I wish I had known.

Hi Mati,
I'm glad that you are having some results. With temperatures in the 35s you must have felt absolutely awful!! The lowest mine got to was 36.1 I always felt really grumpy and tired when it got that low. My mood followed my temps, it was really interesting. I got to where i could predict my temp by the mood that I was in on waking. When I started taking my temps my temp was up and down between 36.1 and 37.1 it would widely fluctuate from day to day - i sign of adrenal fatigue. Then all of sudden i was getting temps mainly between 37 and 37.2, so they were 'normal' to high and fairly stable. I've still got no idea why, I hadn't changed anything or taken any adrenal support and I still felt really bad or even worse and I still had really bad hypothyroid symptoms (low temps are meant to be a sign of hypothyroid)?? This is another reason why I haven't taken anything for adrenal or thyroid, my hormones just seem to completely wacked and crazy and my symptoms and labs don't fit nicely into any paradigm because there are lots of contradicting things. However, I think there are some things you can take for adrenals which are adaptogens - i.e. they will help whether your cortisol is high or low so I will have to look into that more. . .

I hope your healing continues, it must be exciting seeing your temperature rise and hopefully you are feeling better and have more energy? Yes lots of people feel so much better on adrenal support it can apparently make a huge difference!!

Hi cmlyon

All I have ever felt is absolutely awful!! Before I got on the adrenal ext. my temperature was at worst 35.0, and at this level, I had problems working out what day it was until I could get on the computer. Wow 37+ degrees sounds amazing. I have never been up there. When i was a child, this was the most outstanding symptom apart from fatigue, I was too cold to get to sleep at night. I can't say I notice mood change but then I don't know what having a normal temp is like. Wow maybe i can be happy one day <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I think that anyone who is chronically ill will benefit from adaptogens, I would definately take them had I known what I know now.

Linda : re kidney cleanse tea…..how hard/tough is it? Everyone is different, but you should not do other cleanses at the same time. My Mom is taking it now and has no side effects whatsoever. When I took it, my urine went really dark and smelly and it hurt having a pee (sorry:o) for about 10 days. My ankles puffed up with oedema (oedema is water retention caused by kidney problems) which I have never had before….so was rather startling! By the end of the 25 days pee was normal, oedema was gone and no more pain…..but for me, being so toxic…I felt the effects good enough…so I know these herbs work. I will be using these kidney herbs in a couple of weeks once my bowel cleanse finishes.

Once you do a liver flush you will discover how different these cleanse are and what I mean when I say the liver flush is heavy duty. For the record, Cutler says mercury toxic should NOT liver flush, because it puts the already stressed liver under even more stress. Saying that I have done 10 liver flushes and I am still here…..but for me….they are heavy duty….my last took over two weeks to recover from and I will not be liver flushing very often. Now I will use castor oil packs to help detox my liver gently instead. I got very big positive results from the first 5 liver flushes I did, but then it started getting too heavy for me.

Cmlyon

– I never stop taking my supplements. I supplement every day even on all these cleanses and during chelation. (oh except ….in fact for liver flushing I stopped my supps on the day of the flush only.)
This is Cutler’s recommendations, I know others say you should stop, but I don’t.


– that’s the plan …. getting better. If I can drag some others along with me…all the better;-)

re liver flush blockages……I have heard those stories and for some it is too much or maybe too late. In my view, if you do a liver flush and you get a blockage….you would have got a blockage anyway at some point anyway. Very very very few people get this problem. There are quick easy ways to solve the problem too if you research, read up about them and prepare…just drink more Epsom salts and flush them out! Problems occur when you combine western doctors/hospitals with liver flushing….. western doctors do not understand them and will just operate willy nilly. They want your money and they know of no other way. If you read that Andreas Mortiz book I recommended above….you will be motivated to do one for sure. (he also has a book with just the liver flush info in it.) Again …Cutler says not to because they are too heavy.

Himalayan crystal salt 2 tsp per day, Ace 350mg, liquorice tea 2 cups, borage tea, damiana tea, vit B5, kelp plus all my other supplements.
I have been working hard on getting my ACE dose up….if I go too fast I get a bit crazy…I only seem to be able to increase my ACE dosage by 50mg every 7-10 days. (ACE = adrenal cortex extract) current target is 700mg….so will take me a long time. If I push it too quick it just hurts me.

Yeah milk fast….my milk allergy is by far my worst allergy. Total nightmare…but raw milk is supposed to be ok…..that is an experiment that will be tried at some point…..but ultra cautiously….this has the potential to really hurt me. But will be interesting to see how I react when I pluck up the courage. This is all tied in with ….anyway…..yeah other stuff…..

Hi Mati: Humaworm still on the shelf? Whys that?
When I took Humaworm first I was on only a few low dose supplements and zero adrenal/thyroid supports and I was a physical and mental wreak. I was really really ill. I had a pretty wild ride, with some crazy symptoms and reactions, but it enabled me to start healing.

sunshine

My liver is not in great condition, that is the main reason why. I read on curezone someone says that they had not been up to taking the course and were ill with it and regretted taking it. I don't know, I could really do with a boost at the moment as healing is so slow. It is in the fridge now after you saying about keeping the herbs fresh but if i don't take it soon I might have to throw it out and buy a new lot. OK I will give it a go I think.

Hi Mati,
I've been told my liver is struggling too but I've never had any specific/liver medical tests.I just wondered have you had any tests that confirmed your liver is under strain?

sunflower

The bloods I had done in December showed

Lymphocyte count 3.2
Basophil count 0.1
Total alkaline phosphatese 113 u/L

all high

How often is it advisable to do these cleanses?

It would appear that one liver cleanse usually isn't enough to remove all the stones.

Mati: I will repeat what I said earlier


Linda:

Bowel cleanse you can do fairly often, every other month, maybe more.
Parasite cleanse need to have 3 months break inbetween parasite cleanses.
Kidney cleanse twice a year, maybe 3-4 times in the first year.
Liver flushes, minimum 2 weeks inbetween, but suggest 1 month is better. I strongly suggest the other cleanses first. They will make the liver flush much easier. Humaworm recommends doing a liver flush 1 week after the parasite cleanse.
You need to kidney cleanse after every 3-4 liver flushes.

Saying all that, I did all the cleanse in exactly the opposite order. And that’s why I now know the reason for the order. What goes before makes what goes after easier.

I have done 10 liver flushes and I am still getting stones out. If you cruise curezone, people there have done 50-100 flushes….personally I think if you have done that many and you are still not better….you need to do something else because it’s obviously not working. 50 flushes is hardcore….$hit 10 flushes is hardcore. They are good cleanses, but they are defo hardcore. Very satisfying getting stones out, when you seem them in the bowel…you instinctively know they are better out than in.

I get noticeably better after each cleanse and I now have a revolving system when I am doing one of the cleanses all the time. I’m in the groove, they are easy and they make me better.

Today was a good day, I got more mucoid plaque out of me. big load. I’m feeling good about this bowel cleanse I’m on.

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Thanks sunshine.

I have decided to go ahead with Humaworm. I am just waiting for my cream and my cleanse to arrive.

Good luck Mati.

Cream? That new Humaworm cream RG has just introduced? Yeah I got that coming in the post too. I ordered my next parasite cleanse a couple of days ago…I ordered the EXTRA STRENGTH Humaworm………….LOL……..that should be fun! The owner of Humaworm has tailor made an extra strong parasite cleanse to match my symptoms….same price….custom made…..cool company<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Anyway, good good good luck Mati. Congrats for making the decision. If you have ¼ of the benefit I got….. you will be very happy indeed. Remember to drink plenty of water to flush out the nasties.

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Thanks Sunshine. I didn't notice a cream being sold on the website -- must look again. I'm waiting for my order of Humaworm too.

With that, you say you get a bowel cleanse along with the parasite cleanse. What do you do if you want to do a bowel cleanse on its own?

Yes sunshine and Linda, that's the cream.

I'm getting the cleanse to get my bowels moving better and am planning on having a week on the cleanse first or longer before starting the parasite cleanse. Even with plenty of water (thanks for the advice sunshine ) they are still rather sluggish, with my metabolism being so down, although improved on the ACE my heart-rate is still 60 on waking, and I am pretty full of toxins to start with <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dead.gif" alt="" /> so I want to really have things clearing quickly.

I must admit that I am still a bit apprehensive, as apart from my liver not being so great, due to the toxin load I carry I think, I develop intolerance easily with something I have daily, and I might do so with any of the herbs, but the benefits of getting rid of the little critters, has been so well documented by sunshine <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/imnotworthy.gif" alt="" /> that I am going to take the chance.

I am doing a lot of reading up on Hashimoto's Disease atm as I have really high anti-bodies, so that I can work with Dr Peatfield better to get my thyroid stable and the condition reversed if possible. I don't think I will be doing the replacing amagams for a while yet, maybe even two years, it takes a lot of time to sort it out.

I can't believe how much i have learned in such a short while since coming here and how much more confident I feel in listening to my body. Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" />

Wow sunshine they really are a great company.

Linda: Humaworm do various combinations of herbs.
One is a straight bowel cleanse…called Humacleanse.
One is a parasite cleanse…..called Humaworm. This parasite cleanse includes herbs for bowel cleansing in it too. So you can just take Humaworm as its an all in one kinda thing. Cleans you out and helps flush out the toxins as well.

You can do both of these at the same time, if you wish. My first Humaworm was just that on its own, but on my second I did both at the same time. Why? Because I was really ill and I had a lot of dead things coming out a me and I got clogged up the first time.

The reason for drinking lots and lots of water is so that you do not get blocked up. The water flushes all those nasties out. I had to get a colonic done and ……and……and…..i don’t really enjoy them and wanted to avoid that again.

If you want to only do a bowel cleanse then humacleanse is what you need, but you got the parasite cleanse coming….that will be fine for now.

Mati: I asked on Humaworm if I should do what you plan on doing….he said not to, he said to do them both at the same time….but I don’t think it’s gonna matter that much…..if you feel safer that way….i’m sure its fine.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1050662#i

re : waiting 2 years for amalgam removal. Its real important to learn lots before jumping in…but 2 years is too long. Those amalgams are continually leaking…2 years is a lot of mercury going in….once you learn enough…you will know when the time is right to tackle the toxic slag <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/skullbones.gif" alt="" /> Treating the adrenals is very wise and very important for us mercury people.

– I hope you find out yourself just how great it is<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grabbedbythetoilet.gif" alt="" /> LOL

oh yes, Linda…I would not chelate when on Humaworm. Certainly not for the first two weeks at least. On my last cleanse I took a 1 month chelation break. I’m glad I did. You don’t want to do too much detoxing at the same time.

I had a hair test and it said my mercury levels were very low. I'd been chelating hard for months before that so the mercury would have been in my system and would have got into my hair, presumably. My feeling at the moment is that I'm clear apart from what the candida is releasing that I (think) I'm killing. I don't want the mercury being re-absorbed from that.

Thanks for all the info here, looking forward to doing these cleanses and hopefully feeling better. I'm glad you can take herbs for a bowel cleanse. Enemas . . . they don't sound very pleasant.

2 years is too long

Thanks sunshine. I do hope it will be sooner but I just cannot see my body handling mercury being dumped unless my thyroid and adrenals are much much better and due to the length of time they have been down, (possibly all my life, I felt cold since then) my age, my Hashimoto's, pesticide stored in my body fat, lack of real time help and support etc etc, I just can't see it yet, but maybe later I will .It is certainly encouraging to see how you are doing. I will get the big amalgam out some time sooner, and perhaps replaced now instead of an extraction, but maybe leave the small one in as it will not be giving off too much mercury surely as it is very small and in the side of the tooth, and will stop the dumping until i feel I can cope with it.

Thanks for the link. OK I will start them both together.

Everyone reacts differently to amalgam removal. Some get better, some struggle….think I did both. But one things for sure, now that I am amalgam free I am no longer getting constantly poisoned 24/7 and my body is free to heal without this constant topping up of mercury. Amalgam removal was difficult for me, because I screwed up my first removal which was done without protection, but I’m glad I got them removed….i can look forward to the future, because I know I can cure myself through chelation and all the other cleanses I am doing. Will take some time, a couple of years, but I got the rest of my life in front of me, I’m only 38


Me too, and I wholeheartedly agree.

Don’t forget with the mercury tap turned off, your body will have more time and resources to support everything else.

As I said, you will know when the time is right. The right time will be when you have read enough and understand enough. Ignorance and fear hold us back so much. I can’t remember, have you read Cutlers book yet?

Yes you are right. Education is the answer but the more I know the more cautious I become <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/unsure.gif" alt="" />

Yes I have Cutlers book here.

I think that the answer will come when my thyroid medication starts and how quickly I can get my thyroid sorted out. Not easy with Hashimoto's but there is help online from others who are doing it. Even Dr Peatfield said my case was complicated and he did not sound too sure about me getting the work done. maybe that is why I am more doubtful, but then, he is an expert in metabolism and not mercury poisoning.

Yes, and the more I learn the more excited I get about the prospects of getting better, of finding a safe passage through this bloody minefield.

It is truly amazing just how many things I got wrong with me. Almost every organ I investigate is compromised in some way….. Bloody life style! Bloody diet! Bloody toxins! Bloody mercury!

Yes…seems silly to say such obviously things, but you are right, we must always keep ours eyes on the ball….mercury is our root cause. Without mercury we would not be in such a mess……………which is why getting the source out is so important.