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03/16/08 06:12 AM
03/16/08 06:12 AM
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Your BPA questions, answered

When we posted a little analysis of the new research on the toxic
plastics chemical bisphenol A (BPA) leaching from polycarbonate
bottles, we had no idea how many questions it would inspire. This
month, instead of the usual Ask EWG feature, we've put together a post
in which we answer as many of your BPA questions as we can. We know
you've probably got even more questions. Ask away and we'll do our
best to answer, but keep in mind that there are some questions we just
don't have the answers to yet.

First, a little review: What is BPA?
BPA is a chemical used in the production of certain kinds of plastics,
including polycarbonate plastic (like hard, colored water bottles and
5-gallon drinking water coolers) and the lining of most food and
beverage cans. BPA can leach from the plastic and into foods and
beverages, especially when it's heated or used for long periods of
time. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control found BPA in the bodies of
93 percent of the people they tested, which is especially troubling
since the chemical is linked to breast and prostate cancer and
neurobehavioral changes in offspring exposed in the womb. It's a good
idea to avoid exposure to BPA whenever possible.
Stuff you drink out of

Polycarbonate bottles: As the original post mentioned, studies show
low levels of BPA leach out of polycarbonate bottles (like Nalgene and
other hard, colored water bottles) at room temperature. More BPA
leaches when the bottles are filled with hot liquid. Generally these
bottles will be marked with recycling number seven. Polycarbonate is
hard, translucent or clear plastic.These bottles may be marked with
the number 7. If you're going to use a polycarbonate bottle, be aware
that it's likely that higher amounts of BPA leach out of older and
damaged bottles. Although we recommend that you avoid drinking from
polycarbonate bottles, it's important to note that your potential
exposure to BPA through canned food is considerably higher.

One commenter mentioned recycling; as far as we know, #7 drink bottles
are rarely recyclable. To be sure, check with your local recycling center.

Other plastic bottles: Don't reuse single-use plastic drink bottles
(PET, or #1 plastic). It's a good instinct, but bacteria can build up
on the inside, and they may leach chemicals too. Drop them in the
recycling instead. Bottles made from flexible, cloudy-colored HDPE #2
are considered a safer option if you must have a plastic bottle.

Water filter pitchers and containers: These hard, clear plastic
containers may or may not be made of polycarbonate. One commenter left
a link to a Q&A on The Green Guide which reveals that Brita filter
systems use containers made from styrene methylmethacrylate copolymer.
Brita confirmed for us that they don't use (and never have used)
polycarbonate plastics. Other filter brands may use polycarbonate
plastics; check with them to find out. If your filter does use
polycarbonate plastic, you could consider filtering water and storing
it in glass bottles.

Camelbak hydration systems: Camelbaks's inner bladder is made from
flexible polyurethane, which contains no BPA or phthalates. They have
an antimicrobial silver lining. There's no risk of BPA exposure, but
some scientists have raised concerns about antimicrobial silver.

Metal water bottles: Metal water bottles come in two variations:
stainless steel and aluminum. Many aluminum bottles are lined with an
epoxy or enamel, which is likely to contain BPA. Sigg, the Swiss
company that produces a line of aluminum water bottles, recently
produced test data showing that several new and used Sigg bottles did
not leach BPA at levels greater than 2 ppb after three days of heating
in nearly boiling water -- that's less leaching than polycarbonate
bottles under the same condition. Stainless steel bottles, like Klean
Kanteen, are not lined, so there's no risk of BPA exposure there.
Food containers

Canned Foods: No matter what brand you use or where you buy your
canned food, the cans are almost certainly lined with an epoxy resin
that contains BPA. If they didn't use it, the cans might rust, or you
might end up with metal residues in your food. But because of the high
temperatures used in the canning process, your potential exposure to
BPA from canned food is much higher than your potential exposure from
plastic water bottles.

Only one manufacturer that we know of uses non-BPA lining on some of
their food cans:

Eden Organic Beans are packed in lead free tin covered steel cans
coated with a baked on oleoresinous c-enamel lining that does not
contain bisphenol A (BPA). (Oleoresin is a natural mixture of an oil
and a resin extracted from various plants, such as pine or balsam
fir). These cans cost 13.77 percent more than the industry standard
cans that do contain BPA. This costs Eden $300,000 more a year. To our
knowledge Eden is the only U.S. company that uses this custom made
BPA-free can.

Eden's tomato products are still packaged in cans with a BPA-based
lining. Have a look at EWG's report for lots more on BPA in canned
foods, including certain canned pastas and soups that contained the
most BPA.

Reusable food containers: According to Kathleen's comment, Tupperware
has confirmed that their Rock'n'Serve line does contain BPA. Other
reusable containers may be made of polycarbonate. If not marked with a
number 7, these would be very rigid clear or translucent plastic (not
cloudy or flexible like yogurt containers). As an extra precaution,
avoid putting hot liquids in these or microwaving them. In general
it's best to use safe ceramics or glass containers for microwaving
whenever possible.

Plastic wrap: In 1998, it was revealed that some plastic wraps
contained chemical plasticizers called phthalates, which can migrate
into food. In 2006, the industry group American Chemistry Council
reported that phthalates are no longer used in any US plastic wraps.
Most plastic wraps are made of LDPE, which has fewer contaminant
concerns. Companies aren't required to list what's in their plastic
wrap, though, so your best bet is to be cautious: Avoid microwaving
plastic wrap (use a paper towel instead), and if you must, make sure
it's a microwaveable version. That much, at least, will be listed on
the box.
More consumer goods

Products for baby: A few of you expressed concerns about products
designed for babies, from bottles to formula to pacifiers. Luckily, we
lay out the best choices for many baby products in our guide to
baby-safe bottles and feeding. Some basics: Choose bottles made from
glass or BPA-free plastic. Use a clear silicone nipple, and if you're
feeding formula use a powdered version mixed with unfluoridated water.
As for pacifiers, while the hard plastic part may be made of
polycarbonate plastic, that part doesn't go in baby's mouth -- so get
a version with a silicone nipple, and don't worry too much about the rest.

Dental fillings, dental sealants: These can be BPA-based. If you're
concerned, ask your dentist to show you the Material Safety Data
Sheets (MSDS) for the filling materials and look for bisphenol A or
bisphenol A diglycidyl ether (BADGE), and bisphenol A-dimethyl
acrylate (Bis-DMA). A fourth chemical, bis-glycidyldimetha crylate
(Bis-GMA), does not appear to give off BPA during use. Try to avoid
having dental work done while pregnant or breastfeeding. Remember that
BPA passes through your body quickly.

Mouthguards: One commenter asked if mouthguards made out of
polycarbonate plastic would be a concern. Contact the manufacturer
directly for more information about the type of plastic your
mouthguard is made of. If it is polycarbonate, then there is some
potential for BPA leaching.
The science

European safety assessment of BPA: One commenter questioned the
validity of the study mentioned in the post, based on a comparison
with the European Union's assessment. We'd like to caution against
holding the EU up as the paragon of chemical safety; while it's true
that they're sometimes more cautious about chemicals than the US, that
frankly isn't saying much. In this case, the EU assessment ignored the
results of dozens of studies showing very low dose effects of BPA and
assumed that rodents are far more sensitive than humans to this
chemical--an assumption that is by no means universally endorsed.

Here in the U.S., the National Institute of Health (NIH) is currently
trying to reconcile the results of 2 expert panels that came to very
different conclusions about the potential harm of low dose BPA
exposures. There results are expected some time in 2008.

Is BPA making me sick? Can I be tested? BPA passes very quickly
through the body, so testing yourself would only give you a snapshot
of the past couple of hours. In general, laboratories do not conduct
BPA testing for individuals, and people must be part of a scientific
study to be tested. Your best bet is to do what you can to limit your
exposure to BPA, and support efforts to require that industrial
chemicals are fully tested for safety before they are put in our food
and in our homes.
____________ _________ _________ ______

Bisphenol A in your body: How it got there and how to minimize
your exposure.

BPA in canned foodThe common plastic additive bisphenol A has been
getting a lot of press lately. It's a hormone disruptor that can be
found in almost everybody, and animal studies have linked it to breast
and prostate cancer, and infertility. Knowing all that won't help you
avoid the chemical, but we've got some information here that might.
Knowing how you're exposed is among the best ways to minimize further
exposure.
How'd it get there?
Studies show canned foods are a common source of daily BPA exposure in
our lives. Cans of soda generally contain less BPA than canned pasta
or soup. The worst foods tested contain enough BPA to put pregnant
women and formula-fed infants much closer to dangerous levels than the
government typically allows. Even some liquid infant formula is packed
in cans lined with BPA, which seems ludicrous given the special
vulnerabilities of children's developing systems.

In addition to canned food, certain plastics are often made with BPA.
Called polycarbonate, these plastics are rigid and clear or
translucent and usually marked with a recycling label #7. Not all #7
containers are made with BPA, but it makes for a reasonable and useful
guideline for avoiding a category of plastics. Some reusable
polycarbonate water bottles (we won't name names), marketed as
non-leaching because they minimize plastic taste and odor, may still
leach trace amounts of BPA. But hold on before you run out and buy a
metal water bottle -- make sure you know what you're getting. Many
reusable metal water bottles are lined with the same BPA-leaching
plastic found in cans of food.
How do you get rid of it?
Unfortunately, BPA is so widely used and manufactured that you're not
likely to eliminate it from your system altogether. There are some
steps you can take to minimize your exposure, though:

* When possible, and especially if you're pregnant and when
feeding a young child, limit the amount of canned food in your diet.
* Avoid using old or scratched polycarbonate bottles. If you're in
the market for a new water bottle, look for stainless steel water
bottles that do not have a plastic liner.
* Don't use plastic containers to heat food in the microwave. Opt
for ceramic, glass, or other microwavable dishware.
* Soft or cloudy-colored plastic does not contain BPA.
* If you're formula feeding your infant, consider using powdered
formulas packaged in non-steel cans. Also, choose baby bottles made
from glass or plastics that don't leach BPA (like polypropylene or
polyethylene) .

http://www.enviroblog.org/2008/03/bpa-questions-answered.htm

http://www.enviroblog.org/2007/09/bisphenol-a-in-your-body.htm

Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: cmlyon] #43644
10/14/08 10:06 PM
10/14/08 10:06 PM
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I Believe It.. ((( Smiles )))

And the FDA will look into Scientists possible conflict of interest when it comes to bisphenol A, or BPA..
The headlines read..

Like I really trust them anyway and the funny not so funny thing is..
The consumer and consumer groups seems to know whats what before they do.
Or what they may know, but will deny or won't tell us.
Anyone out there trust the FDA???
And the Corperations and their Scientists..
It's the way of the world theses days deception abounds.
Thats why we need message boards like this.
To warn others of the possible dangers because they usually don't..
Or it's a long time a comeing and people have already gotten sick or have been toxicly poisoned, by then.

Take Care
Lynn

Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: Lynnmn] #43691
10/16/08 07:20 PM
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And also the fact that all theses products linked below contain Triclosan..
which is a pesticide which is also in antibacteria soap is another reason people don't trust them to tell the whole truth
about their products..

Contaminating our bodies with pesticides, heavy metals ect..
Seems to be the way of the world theses days.
And I sudder to think that I've used some of theses products
in my life in the past before like colgate toothpaste..
Changed to Toms of Maine long ago that seems to be O.K.
I use castor oil and oil olive soap and a herbal deodorant.
Plus Rosemary Mint hand soap a natural alternative to antibacterial handsoap..
But still need to look over that list just in case.
The public seems to be the last to find out as always though we suspect something may not be quite right...
and go with other kinds of products anyway.
Just in case..

The public is usually right to be suspcious theses days.

http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticides/factsheets/Triclosan%20cited.pdf

Need to check out all theses products just in case.
Toxicly poisoned again..
It's just everywhere theses days.
Got to watch out for them.
And their products.
They seem to sneak it in there..
Without our really knowing.

Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: Lynnmn] #43700
10/17/08 12:40 AM
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Oh Wow.. ((( Smiles )))

I was reading on that site some of the products that contain Triclosan in it..

SOAP: Dial® Liquid Soap; Softsoap® Antibacterial
Liquid Hand Soap; Tea Tree Therapy™ Liquid Soap;
Provon® Soap; Clearasil® Daily Face Wash; Dermatologica
® Skin Purifying Wipes; Clean & Clear Oil Free
Foaming Facial Cleanser; DermaKleen™ Antibacterial

Lotion Soap; Naturade Aloe Vera 80® Antibacterial Soap;
CVS Antibacterial Soap, pHisoderm Antibacterial Skin
Cleanser, Dawn® Complete Antibacterial Dish Liquid,
Ajax® Antibacterial Dish Liquid.

DENTAL CARE: Colgate Total®; Breeze™ Triclosan
Mouthwash; Reach® Antibacterial Toothbrush; Janina
Diamond Whitening Toothpaste

COSMETICS: Supre® Café Bronzer™; TotalSkinCare
Makeup Kit; Garden Botanika® Powder Foundation;
Mavala Lip Base; Jason Natural Cosmetics; Blemish Cover
Stick; Movate® Skin Litening Cream HQ; Paul Mitchell
Detangler Comb, Revlon ColorStay LipSHINE Lipcolor
Plus Gloss, Dazzle

DEODORANT: Old Spice High Endurance Stick Deodorant,
Right Guard Sport Deodorant
Queen Helene® Tea Trea Oil Deodorant and Aloe Deodorant;
Nature De France Le Stick Natural Stick Deodorant;
DeCleor Deodorant Stick; Epoch® Deodorant with
Citrisomes; X Air Maximum Strength Deodorant

OTHER PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS: Gillette®
Complete Skin Care MultiGel Aerosol Shave Gel; Murad
Acne Complex® Kit, ®; Diabet-x™ Cream; T.Taio™
sponges and wipes, Aveeno Therapeutic Shave Gel.

Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: Lynnmn] #43701
10/17/08 12:42 AM
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Plus..
For some reason it will not post it all..
I see it all in reviewing it but it will not submit it all..
No matter how many times I try..
Sorry.. But it's all on that link/site..
Plus I was reading somewhere else..

The Environmental Working Group says triclosan has been linked to developmental defects, liver toxicity, and cancer in lab studies.
It also may affect thyroid and other hormones that are crucial to normal development.

Plus on that site it says..
Overall, the FDA and the EPA have done little to warn
consumers of the possible health and environmental effects
of triclosan. European countries, by contrast, have taken
a much different approach to this chemical.

That doesn't sound good at all..

FIRST AID: SyDERMA® Skin Protectant plus First
Aid Antiseptic; Solarcaine® First Aid Medicated Spray;
Nexcare™ First Aid, Skin Crack Care; First Aid/Burn
Cream; HealWell® Night Splint; 11-1X1: Universal Cervical
Collar with Microban

KITCHENWARE: Farberware® Microban Steakknife Set
and Cu

CHILDRENS TOYS: Playskool®: Stack ‘n Scoop Whale,
Rockin’ Radio, Hourglass, Sounds Around Driver, Roll ‘n
Ra

KITCHENWARE: Farberware® Microban Steakknife Set
and Cutting Boards; Franklin Machine Products FMP Ice
Cream Scoop SZ 20 Microban; Hobart Semi-Automatic
Slicer; Chix® Food Service Wipes with Microban; Compact
Web Foot® Wet Mop Heads
COMPUTER EQUIPMENT: Fellowes Cordless Microban
Keyboard and Microban Mouse Pad
CLOTHES: Teva® Sandals; Merrell Shoes; Sabatier Chef’s
Apron; Dickies Socks; Biofresh® socks
CHILDRENS TOYS: Playskool®: Stack ‘n Scoop Whale,
Rockin’ Radio, Hourglass, Sounds Around Driver, Roll ‘n
Rale Ball, Animal Sounds Phone, Busy Beads Pal, Pop
‘n Spin Top, Lights ‘n Surprise Laptop
OTHER: Bionare® Cool Mist Humidifier; Microban®
All Weather Reinforced Hose; Thomasville® Furniture;
Deciguard AB Ear Plugs; Bauer® 5000 Helmet; Aquatic
Whirlpools; Miller Paint Interior Paint; QVC® Collapsible
40-Can Cooler; Holmes Foot Buddy™ Foot Warmer, Blue
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Blankets, J Cloth® towels, JERMEX mops

Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: Lynnmn] #43708
10/17/08 01:32 AM
10/17/08 01:32 AM
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O.K.. ((( Smiles )))

Thats good enough as it didn't submit right..
But here's a website for cosmetics and triclosan..

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/sp...more=products&start=0&nothanks=1

Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: Lynnmn] #43711
10/17/08 02:08 AM
10/17/08 02:08 AM
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Mercury in Mascara?
It's true..

Plus.. Major gaps in public health laws allow cosmetics companies
to use any ingrediant they chose even lead, mercury and placenta.

On that site it's all there..

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/

No wonder the body burden is so heavy theses days.
It's everywhere it seems.
They can put it in anything it seems and we ingest it.
Weither in the air our food our water our makeup ect..
And who knows where else??
They rule the world..
This world is a polluted mess..
No wonder so many sick people in the world we get it from all sides it seems.

Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: Lynnmn] #43714
10/17/08 03:27 AM
10/17/08 03:27 AM
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Sean  Offline
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Lynn all these toxins in everything just scare me to death, we don't stand a chance nowadays with anything it seems frown Oh well live your life to the lord and be a good person and we can live a life or pre life as I would say, and have fun and enjoy it to the fullest! Thats all I can say, peace.


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Re: Some info on BPA-the toxic chemical in plastics and cans [Re: Sean] #43924
10/23/08 01:28 AM
10/23/08 01:28 AM
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Hi Sean, ((( Smiles )))

Yes.. It is quiet scarry and I just read an articule on lead.
Mercury blowing in the air from China everyday plus in the air from our own sources of it.
And then I read something about lead.. Got to find it again.
But I just watched the HSN1 DNA flu shot video.
And plus now they recommend a shot for smokers too..
I don't smoke but I would not want their shot even if I did.
Even blood tests kind of make me nervous now..
I mean what could they do with that I just don't know..
I mean in the way of inserting something into your body
unknown to you.
Plus I recall hearing a story about a person that picked up radio signals by the metal in ones teeth..
Not sure the whole story on that but I was thinking about all this metal most likely being put in everybodies body and brain.
Can that be conductive of something or of some use to them makeing us more vunerable in some way??
I'm not sure how that works but that thought just crossed my mind one day..
Does that make any sense to you??

Take Care
Lynn


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