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Im going to start chelating with ALA even though i know it makes my candida x20 worse, when i take it i sweat like hell and look like death. I have tried DMSA at large doses and all i get is a yellow face and suffer weight loss. Has anyone here tried ALA but because of such severe yeast problems stopped taking it? Im really scared because my spine is so swollen, i can barely open my mouth and it feels like theres a tight band wrapped around my head, has anyone had these symptoms that have actually disappeared? My ears are so swollen.

Also with regards to replacement dental materials. If a replacement has zinc or say aluminum in it. Wouldnt that make some sort of charge with the mercury that is in your body? Especially if it was brain mercury? Replacing a metal with a metal surely is not a good idea to a mercury toxic person? I have a glass ionomer in my mouth which has high amounts of aluminum. What does everyone think?

Thank you

Stuart

Hi Stuart,

Regarding the ALA. I would use only very small doses. It did the same to me when I tired it only a few months ago. Because I haven't had amalgams for many many years, because I had already done DMSA long ago and it was no longer effective, I decided to give ALA a shot. I didn't start low, I just halved the 200 mg dose to 100 mg (because I hate splitting capsules up, no excuse I know). Yet....I noticed next to NOTHING.

So for me it was more of an experiment to see what reactions would take place that might alert me that there is significant brain mercury. I barely got any reactions, which is very unusual, particularly at such a high dose. I upped it to 200 mg and still nothing, except perhaps a "little". However, it worsened my yeast issues dramatically. Probably due to the extreme dose.

Someone on here was advocating ALA for people with yeast issues and claiming that it helps and even referring to it as an antifungal. This is wrong. First, it's not an antifungal, and isn't classified as one. It is an antioxidant and like any antioxidant, it can raise glutathione levels in the body which is good. Glutathione helps us to eliminate toxins. ALA is also beneficial to the liver. But for yeast? NO. In fact, it is worse for yeast than DMSA! More problematic. You'd think it SHOULD be beneficial for candida considering it raises glutathione, but instead many get worse yeast issues during and following.

Not good. So it is not taken to treat yeast, it is taken for general health/antioxidant powers and/or mercury or other metal toxicity.

It is better to avoid dental materials with obvious metal (gold, porcelain on metal bases, stainless steel etc). But other than that, there is no such thing as a truly metal free dental material. They all contain them, as this is part of strengthening the material apparently. If you feel that the aluminium etc contained in the glass ionomer maybe more leachable and could contribute to your mercury toxicity, then you should have it replaced. However, aluminium oxide is a non metal. It's in a different form than solid aluminium! IT does not mean it's totally non toxic, but you get aluminium even from your diet and other household items (even anti perspirants I hear). So it can be overall load that can be a problem.

Glass ionomers contain metal salts, which may cause some problems as they maybe more leachable. But again, all dental materials contain "some" metals in them. No matter what you get.

If in doubt, have it replaced as glass ionomers contain more than general composites apparently. But even composites can contain aluminium too, so you have to be careful (if you are really concerned about aluminium oxide).

I have Cerec porcelain and all porcelain apparently contains aluminium oxide too (or some of them do), but in a form that is apparently stable and not nearly as leachable. I don't know, I cannot say for sure about that. I got them due to their lasting qualities and strength, as well as apparent general bicompatibility. They showed to be ok on my serum test, so I hope it means they are! Personally I don't think any dental material is ideal, they all contain undesirables.

Stuart, I don't know if you are on any kind of candida treatment regime/diet? If you are not, you should be. Especially if you are going to take ALA. REducing candida can help your gut and also your liver as well. You would also be wise to compliment the diet with probiotics and liver support. Especially as you get such symptoms from DMSA as well. It sounds honestly like your liver is suffering to me and liver is also connected to the gut. If one gets toxic/overloaded, the other does too.

The best way for me (back then) to treat myself was a health sugar free, yeast free, wheat/gluten free, caffeine free (or at least coffee free) diet. I also included more raw salads etc, as these helped my liver I am certain of it. Raw vegetables are very cleansing, as are fruit (but fruit is a problem if you have candida, so you need to be careful).

Stuart

I think it does sound like your liver is really toxic right now, I'd do liver cleansing herbs and also colonics, I think that would make you feel a lot better.

Melanie

I did a round of ALA and i really dont want to go there again. Although the brain fog has somewhat lifted. I have what looks like candida and on my hands and feet now. (they look greeny yellow) I am going to give the big chelators a break and do a liver flush. Maybe use some coriander in my stir fries etc. Tomorrow im having these glass ionomers out so that hopefully will make a difference.

I am on a strict candida diet and find it easy to stick to it. However once i was on ALA, god ihad cravings i hadnt had in years. Thankfully theyve died down now. Im taking Formula SF722 and have great results with it.

I do think however my liver and kidneys are in a bad way so that is the way to go. I got some epsom salts and flush tomorrow. Thank you for the responses. You guys are wonderful

Stuart, there are some good teas available in health food stotes that will help get rid of toxins. One that is good is the Yogi Detox Tea. Another is the Triple Leaf detox tea. I use the Yogi Egyptian licorice tea on a regular basis. I have used the other two for a while. In addition to licorice root, the tea also has cinnamon, clove, black pepper, ginger and cardamom which are antifungal and antiparasitic.
Don't use anything with licorice root if you hve high blood pressure, and don't use too much of the tea as licorice root can raise blood pressure. Licorice root is a great detoxifier. It also tastes great. I also take olive leaf extract on a regular basis. This helps combat candida. I have been chelating with ALA 50 mg every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. I have completed 6 rounds of chelation in a row, and am taking this week off since my last two rounds of chelation had very strong side effects.

Do you have Amalgams in your mouth?

How much ALA did you take?

What timings did you do?

How long was the round?

What protocol are you following?

Are you supporting your body with supplements. Chelation is hard work for the body and everyone needs to give as much support as possible. What supplements you on?

If you are getting those horrid symptoms then something is wrong because chelation should be manageable and not a nightmare…….so either:-

You have amalgams still in your mouth, and/or

You only just had your amalgam replaced and need to wait longer before trying ALA, and/or

The dose is too high, and/or

The timings need adjusting, some people must dose at less than every 3 hours.

Licorice root itself also has antifungal properties. It is also good for adrenal support.