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selenium
#3935
10/16/05 02:37 PM
10/16/05 02:37 PM
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i have started on algin and seem to be able to take it .I do notice some stomach upset but not much. But when i tried adding vit. e and selenium i got extremely gassy and stomah upset. I only took 100mcg two times in a day. If it is the selenium giving me the problem should i still try to take the vit. e?
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Re: selenium
#3938
10/19/05 08:31 PM
10/19/05 08:31 PM
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I also have a question on selenium. I bought some today, but it says it's "natural yeast". I think I have candida problem. Is it okay to take?
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Re: selenium
#3939
11/09/05 11:33 PM
11/09/05 11:33 PM
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Hi Demi, I'm sorry...I guess I missed seeing your post. According to the information I've read, if you have a candida problem, you should try to avoid yeast in any form, including B-complex vitamins and selenium products (unless they are labeled "yeast-free"). However, selenium is very important for mercury-toxic people, so if you can't find a yeast-free selenium, you may want to try what you have and see whether it causes your symptoms to worsen or not. You should also see if your selenium product contains any vitamin E. Selenium works together with vitamin E. Here's some information on the important benefits of Selenium (it appears right after the information about vitamin E).
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Re: selenium
#3940
11/23/05 02:20 PM
11/23/05 02:20 PM
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I don't want to disagree but " DON'T take the synthetic selenium" it's bad stuff.....very bad stuff.
Only take the natural selenium.....yeast fights yeast....and this is a good yeast.....it's not the bad candida yeast.....but it does fight the bad yeast.
You can do a good fungus cleanse (if you've removed the mercury) don't eat sugars, carbs, drink lots of water, no caffeine, etc. Take antifungals and probiotics.
These are just a few things that you can do to remove the fungus....but natural selenium is the only kind you should take.
Elaine
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Re: selenium
#3942
12/22/05 01:46 AM
12/22/05 01:46 AM
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I don't want to disagree but " DON'T take the synthetic selenium" it's bad stuff.....very bad stuff.
Only take the natural selenium.....yeast fights yeast....and this is a good yeast.....it's not the bad candida yeast.....but it does fight the bad yeast.
You can do a good fungus cleanse (if you've removed the mercury) don't eat sugars, carbs, drink lots of water, no caffeine, etc. Take antifungals and probiotics.
These are just a few things that you can do to remove the fungus....but natural selenium is the only kind you should take.
Elaine Why "no coffee"? Seriously, leave probiotics well alone, they made me the feel the worst i've ever felt. Apparently they methylate mercury. It seems t the largest amount of mercury is in my candida infection, so destroying it fast will release far too much mercury into my system in one go. And so im also staying away from ant-yeast drugs. Im just on the diet you outlined, with a lot of fiber (i have supplements).
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Re: selenium
#3943
12/22/05 03:25 AM
12/22/05 03:25 AM
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Hi Steve,
If you'll notice I said, (if you've removed the mercury) .....and if you've removed the mercury, then probiotics are good for you.....but because we have so much mercury being dumped into our stomachs, thus killings off any benefical flora (bacteria), we are at a constant state of ill health, with all sorts of stomach problems, kidney problems, etc. Once we remove the mercury, we need to get our health repaired and the gut is the best place to start with....I've read that the gut is the core of our health. Now if you still have mercury dental fillings, then the mercury that is being constantly dumped into your stomach (gut) will continue to attack any good flora.....the bad bacteria actually changes the good flora into bigger, badder bacteria....that's why you felt so sick when you took a probiotic.
Everyone has several different kinds of fungus/yeast in their bodies. Candida is not the only fungus/yeast that is harmful to people.....candida is the only fungus/yeast that is benefical to mercury laden people.
"Mercury feeds Candida, Candida controls Mercury." So if you have mercury dental fillings, don't try to eliminate the candida. Candida keeps the mercury from changing into the vapor form (Methyl).
I agree if someone still has dental fillings then they need to wait until they are removed before they try using probiotics or antifungals. I can take a probiotic if my stomach is really upset and my face is really breaking out but I am waiting until after I remove my mercury before I start taking it more regularly. Same with any antifungals, I can only take Olive Leaf, it's a very good antifungal, antimicrobial, antiviral and antibacterial.....I mainly take it to keep the bad bacteria under control and if I'm feeling like I'm getting sick.
I said no caffeine primarily if someone wants to acheive optimum health.......caffeine is not very healthy.....but it's your body, your choice! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Elaine <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: selenium
#3944
12/22/05 06:08 AM
12/22/05 06:08 AM
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I said no caffeine primarily if someone wants to acheive optimum health.......caffeine is not very healthy.....but it's your body, your choice! Optimum health in general or optimum health when trying to fight off candida? Caffeine is not "bad for your health", per se. Remember, one person's poison is another person's cure (and vice versa). You may find that moderated caffeine is actually benefitial for some ailments, even if it does the opposite for others. Caffeine is not bad for you. Chocolate is not bad for you. Wheat is not bad for you. Milk is not bad for you. Sugar is not bad for you. It's when combined with a multitude of other factors that these foods earn such a bad name. Abstaining from all wheat and yeast is an extremely radical approach. Though it may effectively treat some ailments, I can't help but wonder if it hinders another ailment as a result (even if only spiritially/emotionally). For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I might cure my eczema by abstaining from all wheat products evermore, but will I be better off consuming bland, tasteless, expensive, difficult-to-find foods for the rest of my life? What's worse, mild eczema, or eating nothing but wafers from now on? I have to believe that there is something ELSE wrong with the body if one has to remove all wheat and yeast (i.e., NORMAL foods) from their diet.
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Re: selenium
#3945
12/22/05 12:02 PM
12/22/05 12:02 PM
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Wonderful post, Egan. I agree, and I've been trying to tell folks the same thing. It is the whole picture that counts. I actually know a doctor who tried to put young, very young, children, on an unbelievably restricted diet for candida (chronic.) I mean, really! Can you imagine the deficiency diseases that would have ensued - they would be much worse than the original symptoms. As I see it, candida is a symptom of some weakness/deficiency, not a disease in and of itself. Apart from the mercury issue, see what trad. chinese medicine has to say (though they don't call it candida as such, it is good to find a doctor of TCM who understands western concepts, too).
True, also, what you say about chocolate, coffee, etc. And let us add moderate consumption of tobacco and alcohol to that. No, I am not being sarcastic. The benefits of moderate consumption of pure tobacco get no mention in the mainstream media; if they do, it is a half-inch article on Page 54 or thereabouts. It is a FACT that some people, with certain symptoms, are much helped by tobacco (spaciness, for one).
But I am not meaning to promote politically incorrect things that some of us enjoy, just trying to defend Egan's basic ideas. My further expansion of these ideas is that there is too much emphasis on cleansing (of all kinds, not just candida). In some cases, yes, it is true, all you need is a medicine that will clean out the problem, whatever it is - gall stones, liver sludge, old feces (I did this cleanse and it was wonderful). But it is a good idea to look deeper and instead of wiping out everything you see as unclean, first nourish yourself and see what happens. This is the difference between neutriceuticals and tonics, between restrictions and kindness to your body. To be specific: Egan mentioned abstaining from all wheat products for eczema. Hard to do. But people who have dealt with the problem with essential fatty acids have head, in some cases, spectacular success. That is only one example.
Animals feel pain & suffering just as we do, and they value their lives as much as we value ours.
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Re: selenium
#3946
12/22/05 02:10 PM
12/22/05 02:10 PM
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It's been 5 months ago since I had my fillings replaced. A couple of weeks ago I tried probiotics and I suffered greatly, and that's a understatement.
Yes, probiotics are good IF your candida is not laden with mercury. So probiotics are only good IF you've removed all the mercury from your body. Even those who've had their fillings replaced (hello) will still have mercury in their bodies, and so probiotics will be bad for them.
I still can't decide if this is what you were saying or not. No matter.
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Re: selenium
#3948
01/04/06 09:16 PM
01/04/06 09:16 PM
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I believe tobacco should be banned. It's highly addictive, and probably the biggest killer in our society. It's more addictive than heroine. Also, tobacco smoke contains over 400 toxins, including mercury. It's only legal because it's always been legal, but I don't believe it is any less of a problem in society than other drugs. Not only does it fill peoples houses with toxins, but it fills the air with toxins. If you put into your garden all the poisons in cigarette smoke, you would prosecuted.
I really am against smoking because it's not just the individual concerned who suffers, but everyone who lives with them and exposed to their filthy habit. I live with a smoker and I've seen first hand that the addiction is stronger than anything - stonger than love for family, self, and consumes needed money because the urge is too powerful. Those who sell tobacco are selling death.
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Re: selenium
#3949
01/04/06 10:37 PM
01/04/06 10:37 PM
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I never heard of anyone smashing their car and everyone in it, picking fights, murdering others, and so on, from smoking tobacco. But consumers of alcohol do this every day.
Further: To make other people or yourself sick or dead, you have to smoke lots, every day, for years & years. To kill or sicken yourself or others, etc. - see my first paragraph - you don't have to be a "problem drinker", alcoholic, regular drinker or social drinker. You have to get drunk once - just once.
In view of the above, Demi, I am looking forward to you posting your opinion that alcohol should be banned.
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Re: selenium
#3950
01/05/06 08:32 AM
01/05/06 08:32 AM
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Yes, I would support a ban on alcohol. I think it would be harder to ban alcohol than tobacco, but I would support it. I never drink alcohol myself. I think those who are caught drinking and driving should have a custodial sentence. I don't go to many social events, but guaranteed that at any one I do go to, there will be those there who consume alcohol and drive later, thinking they are okay.
Alcohol causes tremedous suffering to individuals and families of alcoholics. If people consumed alcohol and tobacco responsibly i.e. didn't smoke in the presence of others, then I think it is freedom of choice, but people don't. Consequently, innocent people suffer from the actions of smokers and drinkers.
In this country, babies and children are frequently admitted to hospital because of inhaling their parents smoke. Those who smoke around their children are irresponsible parents.
Passive smoking kills. I only have to be in the room for 5 minutes with cigarette smoke and I feel sick. My eyes burn and my throat gets very dry.
I would personally be very happy if both cigarettes and alcohol would be banned as a lot of people are not responsible with either, and if people can't be responsible and innocent people are killed directly or indirectly as a result of their irresponsibility, then they should be denied access to the substances.
Just my opinion, sorry if it offends smokers and drinkers.
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Re: selenium
#3951
01/05/06 03:29 PM
01/05/06 03:29 PM
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So, how far do we carry this? Right now, marijuana etc. are illegal. Have you any idea the manpower & expense utilized to go after users and producers? It's in the billions. Let's add the banning of alcohol & tobacco, and see what the bill will come to for the godforsaken taxpayer.
You want to ban everything unhealthy, apparently, as far as I can see, if "innocent" parties are made sick or dead. Well, there's junk food, especially nutrient-free things like coke, pepsi, etc., which lots of people consume by the gallon every day. Consumers of these drinks harm others by becoming chronically ill, thereby necessitating the construction of more and more hospitals and training more and more doctors - don't think for a moment there isn't plenty of taxpayer money involved here.
How about ice cream - even the kind without additives. The combo of sugar + dairy is almost deadly to so many people, but they can't stop themselves because it tastes so good and they are plain old addicted to it.
By now, the bill for enforcement is about $300,000,000,000+ per year, and about 50% of the population works in Anti-Substance Enforcement.
Oops. Forgot about the Biggie - coffee. Superficially, this also doesn't affect you or me. But wait - it immediately fills the need for energy and good feelings, which is why it is so popular, and why the entire economy would collapse if it was made illegal; the overwhelming majority of office & trades workers in boring jobs cannot function without it. I know, because I have worked in offices for 30 years. No coffee - no business - no economy. This is not an exaggeration.
Please tell me where we stop banning things that directly or indicrectly cause sickness & death & suffering.
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Re: selenium
#3952
01/05/06 05:06 PM
01/05/06 05:06 PM
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We clearly have very different opinions, and that's okay. You don't have to agree with me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I don't do debate because I have never found it to achieve anything, except cause bad feeling.
I believe that cigarettes should be banned in the interest of public health, but I appreciate there are those who disagree. Eveyone is entitled to their view, which is why we have democracy, at least in theory.
I also believe amalgam should be banned in public interest, but there are those who disagree on that aswell for similar reasons as you cited - not enough mercury in the fillings to make people sick, people get sick from composites, other things contribute far more to bad healththan fillings, so on and so forth.
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Re: selenium
#3953
01/06/06 02:04 PM
01/06/06 02:04 PM
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I'm agreeing with what you are saying Mr. Anon. We can not continue to fill our law books with what I call "feel good" laws.
Regarding alcohol, it's already been illegal in the US once. Anyone remember that from history class? Remember what happened then? No one can use the reasoning of "it hurts" anything in regards to that because history has already taught us that it caused more damage and harm to our citizens and society than it helped when it was illegal.
Let's not repeat history for God's sake. Let's learn for our past and strengthen our future by with that knowledge. And what I mean by that is, do you know any young people? Have you shared the truth about alcohol or tobacco with them? I am not talking about scare tactics either, I am talking about sharing the honest truth about these substances and then stepping back and letting them make the decision in regards to using them or not. When I was in HS, the bad effects of cigs were not widely publizied or even known. Many of us HS kids started smoking without that knowledge and I honestly think if we gave our children today the truth of these substances and let them make the decision on their own, they'd choose to walk away from it. Most of what I see today though it shoving it down their throats like they are 4 year olds and using scare tactics, those measures never worked and they never will.
There are some drugs that I do not think should be legal at all. Marijuana is not one of them, neither are cigarettes or alcohol. Cocaine, crack cocaine, herioin or any other drug derived from natural means (other than marijauna) should be illegal. Crystal meth and other belong in the illegal category also, IMO. Marijuana is another ballgame regardless of what the polititiians and media would like for you to believe (and no I do not smoke it).
As for alcohol and tobacco, we need to educate our fellowmen with that and allow them to make their own choice as to what and how to handle that. Yes, it'd be nice to live in a society where there were no additions to anything, but we don't, and we can not place that control over our society and still claim "freedom", we're already having our freedoms restricted way to much as it is today.
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Re: selenium
#3954
01/06/06 04:20 PM
01/06/06 04:20 PM
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When someone smokes in the presence of someone else, they make them a smoker too. Where is the choice and freedom them? Where is the right of a child to a smoke-free environment? If children are being abused or neglected, social services are allowed to intervene. I believe smoking in the presence of children is neglect.
Not only do smokers want the right to smoke, but they want the right to smoke in the presence of others and in public places. I currently can't go to pubs because people smoke there. The smoke makes me ill. How is that fair? Yet, now the government is banning smoking in places with food, smokers are claiming it's a violation of their rights. They are very selfish and inconsiderate individuals.
All other drugs of a similar kind are illegal, so why not tobacco? Answer - goverment makes too much money from it.
I don't think comparing tobacco or alcohol to coca cola is fair. Tobacco and alcohol are dangerous. Coca cola might be unhealthy, but it's not dangerous unless someone has an allergy to it. Also drinking coke doesnt affect anyone but the drinker. Tobacco releases hundreds of toxins into the air and the intoxication of an individual from alcohol kills innocent people in various ways every year.
I think banning tobacco is in the interest of public health. I don't think banning alcohol is a realistic option as people could easily brew there own.
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Re: selenium
#3956
02/07/06 03:06 AM
02/07/06 03:06 AM
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Metal Mouth Mom: The exact same thing happened to me. I felt horrible the 3rd day of using selenium.
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