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8 weeks in hospital and.. #51320
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physically better, passed the psych stuff, only just survived mentally, got morpheine which i needed

dmsa is contaminated with thorium in australia, so it could be elsewhere so is our lipoic acid, throrium the heavy metal.

the contamination is not know and shows up on energy tests.

i think in hospital i was asked about maybe 22 times if i wanted psych drugs even though i was there for chronic pain, they are dangerous those people.

i dunno bout anyone else but every minute is a living hell for me, i need help doing anything now, showering etc, i have lost the ability to stay focused from confusion

i am grateful to have my parents

8 weeks in hospital watching amputees getting hoysted and people with their feet cut off right down the middle that looked like a meat clever hat hit them 5 minutes earlier while they waited weeks and told their story that "only 2 toes were supposed to be taken", and people almost screaming for 8 hours at night for more morpheine etc for what was wrong, and

yeah, life *ucks

for me the answer does not seem to be with chelation, i think a cure must be found.


Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: benza] #51321
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oh some kids were doing well after srokes.. but i mean well.. maybe they will never walk again / walk properly but the way they look at in hospital is what they can do is good.

i was freaked out its already that way with metal poisoning but in hospital its worse

Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: benza] #51324
06/25/09 09:23 AM
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Benza, you could try the supplements they recommend on this web page. Are you taking magnesium, zinc, molybdenum, malic acid, and creatine? Those supplements may help. I assume you are taking plenty of B vitamins and vitamin c.

http://www.flcv.com/cfsfm.html

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Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: JK98] #51325
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I'm sorry to hear what you are going through benza. I'm a newbie here so i can't be at any help but I wish you the best. From what I read for days on this board, this whole detox thing works best by taking time. Your body will be able to bounce back. Good luck benza.

Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: TT061880] #51338
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benza whatare ur symotoms exactly? honestly, im am perplexed whast going on with u.

Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: jinx1983] #51353
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I have read on curezone alot of supplements people take and think they are doing better contain some metals, period!

I will not resort to that stuff as it makes some alot worse it seems, cure Cutler wrote a book but what is the success rate? How man got worse?

It is always those who get worse off this synthetic shyt that makes me shake my head, some get better yes but some get alot worse and ruin themselves!

I will stick to flat our safe minerals and other detox methods from powdered herbs, the other stuff can just sit IMO.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: Sean] #51356
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It is always those who get worse off this synthetic shyt that makes me shake my head, some get better yes but some get alot worse and ruin themselves!


Sean, the thing is, that with mercury poisoned people, it seems like no matter what route you take there are those that claim to have gotten worse following it. Its just the destructive nature of mercury, most people only try to get healthier after reaching their 'breaking point', and some just seem like they cannot recover after that point.

Also, after being so sick, judgment it certainly clouded, and some people, regardless of what protocol they follow, refuse to be conservative and take it slow...they want to get better fast because they feel like they can not live much longer in the state that there in...and that desperate mindset can lead to very bad decisions.

I do agree that most minerals are relatively safe, but even using therapeutic amounts of selenium and iodine can be rather risky.

Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: gdawson6] #51357
06/26/09 09:40 AM
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100% true gary.

And the rash is compunded when you have family that doesnt support u and gives u a DEADLINE TO GET BETTER and then they are leaving u, wth no fincial support because hey donr belive u or threaten u with commitment.

LIVE IS F* BEAUTIFUL

WHY US GOD?

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Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: gdawson6] #51361
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Originally Posted by gdawson6
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It is always those who get worse off this synthetic shyt that makes me shake my head, some get better yes but some get alot worse and ruin themselves!


Sean, the thing is, that with mercury poisoned people, it seems like no matter what route you take there are those that claim to have gotten worse following it. Its just the destructive nature of mercury, most people only try to get healthier after reaching their 'breaking point', and some just seem like they cannot recover after that point.

Also, after being so sick, judgment it certainly clouded, and some people, regardless of what protocol they follow, refuse to be conservative and take it slow...they want to get better fast because they feel like they can not live much longer in the state that there in...and that desperate mindset can lead to very bad decisions.

I do agree that most minerals are relatively safe, but even using therapeutic amounts of selenium and iodine can be rather risky.
True true! I know how that feels to want to get better in a hurry! You want to get it overnight. I feel horrible right now from Candida or high copper (Either or I believe) and want to get it all out now!

I know you can't do that and make wise decisions now, reacting fast before messed me up and I got worse from certain things. I think we all need to sit back and think sometimes alot before doing something (I know thats hard for us with toxicity), thorough research both negative and positive and try to put things together.

The first sign of feeling out of control or alot worse and you should stop though IMO, no need to force it and make yourself that much more sick.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: Sean] #51362
06/26/09 07:53 PM
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" I feel horrible right now from Candida or high copper (Either or I believe) and want to get it all out now!"

Take 1 mg a day of molybdenum. It will lower copper levels and help metabolize acetylaldehyde that the candida makes.

Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: JK98] #51364
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Originally Posted by JK98
" I feel horrible right now from Candida or high copper (Either or I believe) and want to get it all out now!"

Take 1 mg a day of molybdenum. It will lower copper levels and help metabolize acetylaldehyde that the candida makes.
Thank you, symptoms of high copper can mimmick Mercury or the like correct? I read foods high in copper and I eat or drink some of them, Zinc being low doesn't help either correct?

So take the Molybdenum as you say, get Zinc in foods and I should do better? Thanks JK.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: Sean] #51369
06/26/09 11:44 PM
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Also take zinc supplements. Zinc is relatively non toxic, and long term intake of up to 50 mg a day(including food sources) is not a problem. Those who are mercury toxic tend to be low in zinc. Chelation causes a loss of zinc.

Copper is somewhat complex.

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm


Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: JK98] #51373
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Originally Posted by JK98
Also take zinc supplements. Zinc is relatively non toxic, and long term intake of up to 50 mg a day(including food sources) is not a problem. Those who are mercury toxic tend to be low in zinc. Chelation causes a loss of zinc.

Copper is somewhat complex.

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

I read that list last night, I get my Copper too much through Water, Molasses and beer!!!! I seriously felt worse over time taking some Molasses which is very rich in Copper and Beer which is too! Beer depletes Zinc and Water contains Copper in amounts right? I felt horrible for weeks! I am starting to feel somewhat better.

I was waking up in sweats in my legs and heart racing, from Copper or Candida? I know Copper symptoms fit me, I look too youjng at 31 years old and fit those characteristics on that page! I feel I am high in copper and low in Zinc from my lifestyle. I am going to take Molybdenum and high Zinc Spirulina for a while and see how that goes.

Have you heard of Barberry for Candida toxins as well? I feel that can help ALOT for us with Candida as I ordered the powder. Copper and Candida can make you near nuts, period.

Good link though, I got it the other night online.

Magnesium helps too, ALOT, Citrate seems to be the best IMO.

Last edited by Sean; 06/27/09 02:35 AM.

In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: Sean] #51390
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"I get my Copper too much through Water, Molasses and beer!!!!"


Get rid of the beer! Alcohol is really bad, and beer is especially bad since it has yeast. Alcohol is metabolized into aldehydes, which is what cansisa also produces.

"I feel I am high in copper and low in Zinc from my lifestyle."

the article seems to imply that many are high in copper since they are deficient in zinc. That is especially true for males, who need much more zinc than females. Instead of spirulina, take zinc picolinate.

"Have you heard of Barberry for Candida toxins as well?"

Barberry contains berberine. Berberine is somewhat toxic and herbs with it must be used with care. It is antiparasitic and antifungal and antibiotic. Other herbs that have berberine and must be used carefully are goldenseal, oregon grape , and goldthread. Goldenseal seems to be much more widely used than barberry. Be careful with the dosages on these, and don't use them long term.

For those who have candida and nothing seems to help, wormwood is one of the most potent antifungals. It is also very strong and can be toxic, so it must be used with great care, not exceeding recomended doses and not using for over a month at a time. Most parasite cleanses have wormwood, and black walnut green hull extract, which is also antifungal.

Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: JK98] #51391
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Beer is one of the worst things to have if you have a candida problem.

Re: 8 weeks in hospital and.. [Re: JK98] #51409
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Originally Posted by JK98
"I get my Copper too much through Water, Molasses and beer!!!!"


Get rid of the beer! Alcohol is really bad, and beer is especially bad since it has yeast. Alcohol is metabolized into aldehydes, which is what cansisa also produces.

"I feel I am high in copper and low in Zinc from my lifestyle."

the article seems to imply that many are high in copper since they are deficient in zinc. That is especially true for males, who need much more zinc than females. Instead of spirulina, take zinc picolinate.

"Have you heard of Barberry for Candida toxins as well?"

Barberry contains berberine. Berberine is somewhat toxic and herbs with it must be used with care. It is antiparasitic and antifungal and antibiotic. Other herbs that have berberine and must be used carefully are goldenseal, oregon grape , and goldthread. Goldenseal seems to be much more widely used than barberry. Be careful with the dosages on these, and don't use them long term.

For those who have candida and nothing seems to help, wormwood is one of the most potent antifungals. It is also very strong and can be toxic, so it must be used with great care, not exceeding recomended doses and not using for over a month at a time. Most parasite cleanses have wormwood, and black walnut green hull extract, which is also antifungal.
I am sure Spirulina which is a food is better for you than just a single Zinc pill, I will do both! How about that! Vitamins never seem to work though for me at all and foods do better (Most of the time).

I means Bayberry, now Barberry, sorry JK! I got it wrong there.

Get rid of the beer, well maybe I will just do that (Would Vodka be better when I drink?).

What about Oregano Oil, non toxic and I read alot about that and Olive Leaf, I would rather do those than any of those! I have read so much about them and they seem to be very safe and very potent for Candida (IF You get the right brand that is).

Alfalfa too? Have you read any on that? I like to use that from time to time.

I have taken Dandelion in a tea too the last few days, got cleansing reactions, what do you know about the Dandelion Root?

Bayberry might be a no no as I read more about it, is it even safe to use? I read it takes away toxins and die offs, but wouldn't regular old damn Charcoal do that as well in moderation and is alot cheaper?

Good looking on the Golden Seal I read on that, Ginger too! Very safe stuff there.

Oxygen can seem to cure it as well! I have read several times someone cured it with some Oxygen supplements or some dilluted food grade Peroxide, I have the book flood your body with oxygen but have not read it all yet! I will do.

Last edited by Sean; 06/29/09 01:54 AM.

In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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I haven't seen much about bayberry. It doesn't seem to be widely used. What gave you the idea to take it?

No wonder why you are feeling so horrible. Anyone who drinks wgile they have a candida problem will probably feel much worse.
Vodka is not as bad as beer though, as beer has much more sugar.
Both are very bad though. Alcohol is a toxin for the liver, and is broken down into acetylaldehyde, which is what the candida produce. The chemical sensitivity and other symptoms from candida are due to the body not being able to break down the acetylaldehyde the candida produces. Drinking burdens your body with more acetylaldehyde. Many who have candida problems feel like they have a hangover even though they didn't drink.

Oil of oregano is potent stuff and will kill candida and boost the immune system. It is also great to help cure sinus problems.
It can be expensive though, although the Now brand is decent and much cheaper than most brands. It may make you feel much worse though before you feel better.

Alfalfa is good for detoxification, as is dandelion. The most important thing though is to stop drinking if you want to feel better. Molybdenum will help break down the acetylaldehyde.

http://candidapage.com/aldehyde.shtml

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Originally Posted by JK98
I haven't seen much about bayberry. It doesn't seem to be widely used. What gave you the idea to take it?

No wonder why you are feeling so horrible. Anyone who drinks wgile they have a candida problem will probably feel much worse.
Vodka is not as bad as beer though, as beer has much more sugar.
Both are very bad though. Alcohol is a toxin for the liver, and is broken down into acetylaldehyde, which is what the candida produce. The chemical sensitivity and other symptoms from candida are due to the body not being able to break down the acetylaldehyde the candida produces. Drinking burdens your body with more acetylaldehyde. Many who have candida problems feel like they have a hangover even though they didn't drink.

Oil of oregano is potent stuff and will kill candida and boost the immune system. It is also great to help cure sinus problems.
It can be expensive though, although the Now brand is decent and much cheaper than most brands. It may make you feel much worse though before you feel better.

Alfalfa is good for detoxification, as is dandelion. The most important thing though is to stop drinking if you want to feel better. Molybdenum will help break down the acetylaldehyde.

http://candidapage.com/aldehyde.shtml
I know about the drinking and I should cut back, the guily pleasure of mine wink. I bet it does make me feel that much worse though, no doubt about that at all. Alfalfa is very good for detox, I will try that more often now, that and Dandelion because of my lifestyle.

I know you can't heal or get that much better while drinking, for some reason I love the buzz and just love doing it, it's been something I have loved since my youth it seems.

I don't take Bayberry! I read about it and ordered it, but I do not TAKE IT YET internally.

Molybdenum will help me for now though while drinking? Will that make you feel better or just offset some things?

I know my problems and crutches and admit them all the time in here, my cruth is a few beers every night, I love the buzz and it's a lifestyle to me since my youth (18 or so). I love the high it gives, I never really get drunk at all but I love the little buzz then quit.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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"I know my problems and crutches and admit them all the time in here, my cruth is a few beers every night, I love the buzz and it's a lifestyle to me since my youth (18 or so). I love the high it gives, I never really get drunk at all but I love the little buzz then quit."

You are doing damage to yourself with the alcohol. Even half a glass of beer a day will hurt. Next time you reach for a beer, tell yourself how awful this is making you feel and avoid drinking it. Those with a candida problem typically crave sugar or alcohol.

Last edited by JK98; 06/29/09 09:51 AM.

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