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hi

am new to this forum but have read some older posts which has been quite helpful.

my hubby and I are both having VEGA tests next week and will soon be having the amalgams removed in London, UK. By way of background, I have 2 amalgams though one is on a root canaled tooth which is more problematic than just an amalgam. My symptoms have been eczema; chronic exhaustion; brain fog; hair loss; anxiety and a host of other dis-eases. Hubby had his amalgams removed about 5 yrs ago or so he thought, rather expensively, however a few weeks ago, a filling chipped and low & behold there lay the amalgam chip under the broken filling.

This time we are using a bio-dentist widely known in this field (Harley street), and would appreciate it if anyone could provide information on the VEGA testing (what to expect; how accurate it is, any additional things we should ask the tester, etc). Also I find all the information relating to the post-removal detox & chelating overwhelming, is it a case of "each unto his/her own way" or does it depend on the symptoms or severity of toxicity ?


thanks for your help

The symptoms you describe might be due to parasites. Many here have had parasites. You might have mercury toxicity as well as parasites(being mercury toxic makes one much more succeptible to parasites). The first thing I advise new people here to do is a one month parasite cleanse. It is easy and inexpensive. Some people see evidence of parasites while doing the cleanse, while others just feel better after doing it. The parasite cleanse should have at least these 3 herbs-wormwood, black walnut green hull extract, and cloves. These herbs are also very antifungal.
After doing the cleanse for a month, wait at least 4 months before doing the cleanse again, as wormwood can be toxic if taken for too long or in too large a quantity. If you see evidence of parasites, you can take herbs or prescription medicine that works well to combat that specific parasite. You can also eat a clove(section) of raw garlic after each meal to make the parasite cleanse even more effective.

As for chelation, the consensus here is that the Cutler protocol using ALA and DMSA is the best and safest method, however it requires getting up in the middle of the night to take a dose(low doses of ALA and DMSA are taken every 3 hours for at least 3 days in a row, then at least 3 days off, then repat the cycle).

There are many supplements you can take to help with detoxification. Adding commonly available herbs and spices such as ginger, danelion, turmeric, and cayenne to your diet can help. I like the Triple Leaf Detox Tea. I also use the Yogi Detox Tea as well as licorice root tea to help with detoxification. Licorice root is amazing stuff.

http://www.herbwisdom.com/herb-licorice-root.html

you should read through the forum for ideas about other herbs to take, and which vitamins and minerals to take. Magnesium malate, vitamin c, and B vitamins are particularly important.

Hi Seeker,

I am not sure of the accuracy of vega, EAV, or other testing like this. Some say it is very accurate, but this depends upon the operator.

I think you can test for things like compatibility to alternative dental materials, problems in the mouth as well as the rest of the body. But again, sometimes more extensive testing may need to be done, as some tests may miss what other tests may pick up. It can get frustrating and a bit confusing, especially when some contradictions come up.

I'm sad to hear what happened with your husband, yet unfortunately, not over surprised. Did he have the initial amalgams removed by general dentist or a biologic/holistic one? It gets me annoyed when you go in for amalgam removal and some dentists decide to leave some behind and cover it up. Apparently the ones who do this appear unconcerned regarding the health impacts of mercury and really don't want to do too much drilling, so they leave a bit there and cover it up. This is unacceptable if the patient has made it clear that they are doing this for health reasons, or they have gone to a biologic dentist and that dentist has violated his own "code" of beliefs regarding the dangers of mercury by leaving some behind.

Good, honest dentists who understand the risks of mercury in amalgam will be sure to remove every scrap of amalgam before they insert the replacement material.

It's ok, I had some scraps left under two of my white composites when I had them replaced with cerec porcelain. I was very angry, considering all the years of trying to detox mercury from my system and never knowing I still had some left in my teeth. Thankfully it was only a very small bit, but that can be enough for some people to cause problems and hinder proper detox.

I have to concur with JK98 here regarding the method of mercury chelation. It was the one that seemed most tolerable for me and most effective. It has good testimonial back up too. However, everybody is different, so sometimes some people do have to experiment a little until they find something that suits them.

Candida and parasites (and gluten intolerance etc) are often typical problems that mercury toxic people have on top of their mercury. I believe they should all be treated to see if any of these exist. Because treating them can make a big difference to a person's condition and suffering, as they undergo amalgam removal and mercury detox. Treatment includes diet and antifungals/antiparasite remedies.
But I'd start with diet, as that alone can release enough toxins at first, which maybe more than enough for the body to deal with at first. Just my opinion.

Some will die off or reduce from diet alone. Some people may require further treatment if they have a really bad problem and may need extra herbal support. It is always good to do a parasite cleanse each year anyway! Every 6 months or so regardless of ones state of health.

Thank you both for the helpful information.

Bex, yes the previous dentist was holistic,as many claim to be these days. In recent weeks i have been to two local "holistic dentists" advertised as such on their websites - the first one tried to convince me to leave the amalgams in and kept saying "well i can do it for you but why do you want them out?" I left knowing that he simply didn't fully appreciate the extent of the harm and danger. The second didn't seem too concerned about the protocol for removal, suggested it was a simple case of removing and replacing with a composite and said it wouldn't take more than a half-hour appointment, this didn't inspire my confidence so I researched more fully and now hope (and think) we have finally found someone who takes the issue seriously.

I have seen a naturopath a while back and what she said is exactly what you have both recommended re: parasite cleansing. it makes good sense, thanks for pointing it out - i had almost forgotten her advice.

I feel like I have lost a huge chunk of my youth to these health issues and am now very determined to get back to the person I once knew myself to be...am rather nervous though wondering if I'm expecting too much!

Did your husband have the fillings removed with a biological dentist and a resonable protection scheme?

@findthetruth - yes, the dentist was supposed to be biological and they used a mouth dam. unfortunately that was about 5 years ago and my husband can't remember much except that he had three visits to the dentist and they sent him off telling him to take activated charcoal as a detox. Seems like a costly mistake, however we're just looking forward now and are determined to do this properly this time round.

@JK98 - re: licorice root - is there a preferred form (liquid/powder or capsule)in which to take this?

also, has anyone had any experience with taking bentonite clay & psyllium husks as part of the detox?

many thanks & take care all

"@JK98 - re: licorice root - is there a preferred form (liquid/powder or capsule)in which to take this?"

I like making the tea. It tastes delicious. I usually buy the Alvita Licorice Root tea, which is pure licorice root in tea bags. These are the least expensive bags. Traditional Medicinals also makes the bags, however they are more expensive. Buying licorice root in bulk by the pound is much less expensive(perhaps 5 cents per 1.6 gram serving, vs around 15 cents each for the Alvita bags) but not as convenient. The other brands I have found of tea bags have licorice plus other herbs and may be less than 50% licorice root.

Don't use licorice root if you have high blood pressure. It is probably a good idea to limit yourself to two cups(or perhaps at most 3) a day. Imo DGL licorice is a waste, as it is missing many of the medicinal properties that licorice normally has.



Don't use psyllium. Some people get badly clogged up from it. I suggest using guar gum instead. Never take this in capsule form.
Mix half a teaspoon in a cup of water. Stir it well and drink it quickly. Drink a cup of water soon after that. When I take the guar gum, I first stir in half a teaspoon of garlic powder, 1/4 tsp cayenne, 1/4 tsp or less of ground cloves, and some other spices into the water, then add the guar gum.

Hi, I hope you know that a root canal is a problematic with and without connection to mercury -Generally it attribute to many problems and there are also mercury salts or something inside,if it's not natural root canal that as far as I know it's not recommended because it also becomes toxic after a while. If you don't have information try to search jerry bouqout (I'm not sure about the last name).

I didn't take algin or kelps (you have to look for clean kelps) to prevent re-absorbing of mercury and I suggest you to take it. I will ask about the difference so you can learn.
I did the hydrocolon therapy and enemas and it was also good but I think it's not enough.

I remember reading Hal Huggins admitting that the sickest patients he has dealt with were those with root canals and/or cavitations. Even worse than those with just mercury alone.

There are some biologic dentists who have discovered a much better way of doing root canals than the older style. Here is such an example.

http://www.dr-jacques-imbeau.com/ocalexic.html

Yes, it's really incredible to come across holistic dentists like this. I got in touch with this holistic dentist near me who talks about toxins in the mouth and he's aware of cavitations (holes in the jaw after tooth extraction, which haven't healed over properly). One of the causes pf cavitations is the periodontal ligament not being removed once the tooth has been taken out. It is left there to be a breeding ground for potent bacteria, which hinders blood flow/healing over that area. So a cavitation is left behind. This, depending on the person, maybe kept in check by a strong immunity, or it may become a systemic problem.

I asked him if he might open up my ex wisdom tooth sites and clean them out, because I suspected cavitations. He refused. But get this, he was fully aware of the risks of tooth extraction and leaving the periodontal ligament behind and said "Well I only remove it if the patient asks me too". Can you believe this? How many patients would even know about this? Much less request that he make sure he removes it. Most people haven't a clue about these things in dentistry and only till alot of illness/toxicity pulls them down, do they start investigating and MAY find out what it is if they're lucky. I was DISGUSTED.

By the way, this same holistic dentist, who had done many amalgam removals has also left remaining amalgam under composites, according to a health professional I spoke to who has dealt with mercury toxic patients and admitted this to me privately.

This guy advertises himself really well about the dangers of mercury and what should be done and the need for protected removal and detox etc. And he does this?

So yeah, you get dishonest people wherever you go. It's just a pity you get them in areas like this where you'd expect honesty and humanity. So you gotta shop around and ask around and question these dentists a little to get an idea of what they're like and how willing they are to help.

Looks like you're doing just that! I hope you get a good dentist!

hello

apologies for not updating this thread.

the update: all my amalgams and a metal crown were removed in a single session and i now have temporary white fillings. am now looking to start a serious detox plan. began to feel better the next day!

would appreciate any recommendations for purchasing genuine, good quality liquid zeolite in the UK - if anyone from the UK has knows where we can purchase this product, please post here.

thanks