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06/26/08 05:03 PM
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Who Owns The Arctic ?

The simple answer is.. God does of course....
Anything on the earth and in the heavens....
The complicated one is between humans...
Who ask's the question ???

As Time magazine notes....
As global warming shrinks the ice to record lows,
the global battle for resources heats up....
Good new bad news...
It's like the hotsposts in the ocean that promote life..
The more that melts.. The more food out there there is..
And the more resources to be found....
But when does that run out ????
What runs out first ??????

Yes... As in Newsweek....
Eco- Evangelism.... God's green soldiers...
Soul searching and controversy according to newsweek....
I mean it's not like we shouldn't do our part yet....
What part do we play and in what way do we play it ????
Yes.. It did take awhile.. as the Piltman man and how us humans killed
the Neanderthals off just lead too soooo much suspicion....
toward scientists.. On that one...Yet...
As we can actually see whats happening with our very own eyes...
and we don't have to take someone elses interpretation/ word for it..
But we can decide for ourselves on this one...
It's just hard not to notice...
To deny somethings happening to this planet...
And while the word evolution is not in the Bible...
Nowhere to be found...
The word melt, melting, hills, earth, heat is....
So it's O.K. now.... To believe I guess...
Yet... How much can we really really do......
Especially for thoses who believe the Bible is going to play out as writen.
No matter what we do.... and theirs no way based on that..
We can do enough...
Or even for thoses... who don't believe in what the Bible says is going to
happen..... Is whatever CAN be done..
or most likely whatever WILL get done..
Really be enough to change the course..... in the long run ????
Only time will tell for sure....
On that one....

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? #36989
06/26/08 05:07 PM
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It's a very interesting articule in Time magazine for sure...

Going, going..... Gone ?
The Arctic ice cap is shrinking faster then ever measured before..
and could disappear entirely by the middle century...

And they have got alot of pictures to go with this articule..
As they report.....
Realizing An Ancient Dream .. For centuries,
explorers sought an ice-free route to Asia..
A thawed Arctic means shippers could cut transportation time dramatically...

Sounds exciting... Yet... This sentence right here says it all...
But there is something paradoxical about seeking in the Arctic the very
carbon fuels that are melting the northern ice..

Yet the merchants.. which is a ship carrying goods...
need to move thoses goods no matter what..
Right ???? And who's ice is it anyway????
And how long can that last before the goods run out or the climate
shifts at such a dramatic rate that we run out of goods to ship ????

And it is a paradoxical situation for sure...
No doubt about that... it does cause some concern...
And then...
I was thinking with the abundance of this heat, sun thing...
That solar could solve alot of the problems in the resources department... Yet..
Silicon Shortage Darkens Solar Power Development..
The demand is growing yet.. They are shortages of refined silicon..
Cost have gone way up.. And it's all about the silicon supplies...
So whats next ????
A shifting future ????
What happens next...
For us all on this planet...?
We all call home...

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? #36990
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Yes... The paradoxical situation...
The words... melt, melting, hills, earth, heat ....
And also the ships.. It also mentions the ships....
Yet the merchants.. which is also a ship carrying goods...
Waxen Rich.... With the ice melting...

So many riches.. resources... to be found...
That's good right ?
Except the paradox of course...
And a thawed Arctic means shippers could cut transportation time dramatically...
So many riches yet to be found and it's so interesting..
In ancient writeings... written so very long ago...
It says this...

Revelation 18:17 -20 ...
For in one hour such great wealth was desolated. And every ship pilot
and all company on the ships , and sailors, as many as work the sea,
stood from afar, and cried out, seeing the smoke of her burning, saying,
What ( is) like the great city ?
And they threw dusts on their heads, and cried out, weeping and
mourning , saying Woe ! Woe to the great city, by which all thoses
haveing ships in the sea were rich, from her costliness , because
in one hour she was ruined..........Be glad over her, heaven,
and the holy apostles, and the prophets, becaused God judged
your judgement on her..

So we got ships. rich, melting, heat, earth...
And a new heaven and new earth..
Because it seems like thats what we are going to need..
When it's totally ruined... as written about in scripture..
Isn't that interesting..
But...
What does any of that have to do with the world today???

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37072
07/02/08 05:47 PM
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Do they know something we don't know ???
Why now.. Do we need a space age noah's ark ???
Or was the earth renewed after the great flood...
But whatever they feel like they need to do...

Reading Earthweek Diary Of The Planet...
I stumbled on this...

Earth Ark

Scientists hope to establish a massive library of human civilization on
the moon to protect against the wholesale loss of human achivement
should a cataclysmic event wipe out human mankind on Earth ,
Jim Burke , a retired NASA expert working at the International
Space University in Strasbourg , France,
said his idea of a " space- age Noah's Ark "
is one shared by the Alliance to Rescue Civilization , which seeks
to include backups of Earth's biological heritage and diversity in a per-
manently manned lunar facility.

" In the event of a global catastrophe , the ARC facilities will be prepared
to reintroduce lost techology , art, history, crops, livestock...
and if necessary , even human beings to the Earth, " Robert Shapiro,
an ARC cofounder and biochemist, at New York University,
told the National Geographic News....

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37073
07/02/08 05:58 PM
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The Earths Ark.... Hum...

Glacier alpine meadows are disappearing , sea levels are rising in the
Keys, and other Federal lands are feeling the heat from global warming...
And what about heat loveing pests ???
Like the beetles , grasshoppers and fungi's ( does locust like heat too ???? )
I hope not but... Spruce bark beetles are chewing their way through
1,560 square miles of the Alaska's Kenai Penninsula , including 620
miles of spruce trees in Chugach National Forest...

I know that the Monterey Pine's..
Has been dying all over out here by thoses beetles for awhile now.
I've seen them dying in my own yard...
Beautifull trees too !
And the Southern pine beetles are on the march in red spruce forests
of the Southeast....

As reported by the Associated Press.. John Heilprin..
But....
People are seeing theses things happening all over the world..
Changes going on..
And things seem to be acclerating as well....
Faster then expected......
How much faster can it all go ?????

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37346
07/11/08 06:25 PM
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We Need An Earth Ark???

Except the paradox of course...
Matthew 24:3 And He was sitting on the Mount of Olives,
the disciples came to Him privately, saying,
Tell us, when will theses things be? And, What (is) the
sign of Your comeing and of the end of the age?
And answering, Jesus said to them, See ( that ) not any mislead you.

38: But as the days of Noah, so also will be the comeing of the Son of man..

So it will be just like that and they will be marrying,
and giveing in marriage..
Marrying and givening in marriage to whom???
It will be the same event..

Jesus said that will be a sign..
To be on the watch for that day and hour...
What will that event be like???

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37349
07/11/08 06:40 PM
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But first.. Noah's Ark..
Examples and reminders..
It's seems like there will allways be signs and warnings..
Involved.. But can we recognize them as such..

Jehovah's Record Of Impartiality

Jehovah is a perfect example of impartiality.
From the opening pages of the Bible, we read how he manifested
his impartiality in his dealings with humans..

We can learn much from the excellent examples and reminders.
Jehovah showed impartiality in maneuvering matters so that
the Jewish apostle Peter proclaimed the good news to Cornelius
and other Gentiles in 36 C.E.

At that time Peter said; God is not partial , but in every nation
the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him..
{ Acts 10:34, 35 }

In all his dealings the humans family , Jehovah has consistently
demostrated his impartiality. Christ Jesus said of his Father :
" He makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes
it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous. "
{ Matthew 5:45}

Further extrolling Jehovah as an impartial God, Peter testified :
"He is patient with you because he does not desire any to be
destroyed but desires all to attain repentence. "
{ 2 Peter 3:9 }

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37350
07/11/08 06:46 PM
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In Noah's day,
when " the badness of man was abundent in the earth and every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time ,
" Jehovah decreed the destruction of that world of mankind "
{ Genesis 6:5-7, 11, 12 }

However , at God's command and in full view of his contemporares, Noah built an ark.
While he and his sons constructed an ark, Noah
was also " a preacher of righteousness."
{ 2 Peter 2:5 }

Despite knowing the wicked heart inclination of that generation, Jehovah impartially sent them a clear message.
He appealed to their minds and hearts by haveing Noah build and preach.

They had every opportunity to respond , but instead they
" took no note untill the flood came and sweep them away. "
{ Matthew 24:39 }

What an excellent example of Jehovah's impartiality !

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37351
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In theses critical days...
it moves thoses who believe in God's love and goodness to
speak with the same impartiality...
To present Jehovah's message without partiality for everyone
to hear.. { Isaiah 61:1,2. }

Jehovah's promises to the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
made it evident he is an impartial God.
Through their specific family line would come the appointed One by whom '
all nations of the earth would certainly bless themselves. '
{ Genesis 22:18, 26:4, 28:14 }

Christ Jesus proved to be that appointed One.
By means of Jesus' death and resurrection,
Jehovah provided the way of salvation for all obedient mankind.

Yes, the benefits of Christ's ransom sacrifice are available without partiality.

In the days of Moses, Jehovah's impartiality manifested itself
in a most interesting way connected with the daughters of
Zelophehad. Theses five women faced a dilemma pertaining
to the inheritance of their father in a Promised Land.....

This was so because it was customary in Israel for land inheritance to be passed on through a mans sons.
However, Zelophehad died without leaving a son to recieve
an inheritance.

The five daughters of Zelophehad therefore brought their request for impartial treatment before Moses, saying: "
Why should the name of our father be taken away from the midst of his family because he has no son ?

O give us a posession in the midst of our father's brothers. "
Jehovah listened to their pleas and instructed Moses;
" In case any man should die without haveing a son, you must
then cause his inhertance to pass to his daughter. "
{ Numbers 27:1-11 }

What a loveing impartial precedent !
To ensure that the tribal inheritance not be passed on
to another tribe when the daughters got married , they
were required to marry only in "
the family of the tribe of their fathers. "
{ Numbers 36:5-12 }

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37352
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Futher insight into Jehovah's impartiality is seen in the days of the judge and prophet Samuel.

Jehovah commissioned him to annoint a new king of the tribe
of Judah in the family of Jesse the Bethlehemite.
But Jesse had eight sons.

Who would be anointed as king ?
Samuel was impressed by Eliab's physical stature.

However , Jehovah is not swayed by outward apperances..

He told Samuel: Do not look at his appearance and at the
height of his stature...

For not the way man sees is the way God sees, because mere
man sees what appears to the eyes; but as Jehovah , he sees
what the heart is.
" David , the youngest son of Jesse, was chosen..
{ 1 Samuel 16:1, 6-13}

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37353
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Learning From God's Impartiality..

Christians can do well to imitate Jehovah by looking at the spiritual qualities of a fellow believer..
It is easy to judge an individual by our own standards , allowing our personal feelings to obscure our judgement..
Trying to deal with others that way that pleases Jehovah,
not based on our our own preconceived idea is the best of
ways to go..

How beneficial it is for all of Jehovah's servants to use his Word as their standard !
The foregoing Bibical examples help us fight feelings of racial or nationalistic prejudice..
By imitating Jehovah's impartility , we protect the Christian congregation from prejudice, discrimination, and favoritism...

The apostle Peter learned that " God is not partial. "
{ Acts 10:34 }

Favortism is an enemy of impartiality and violates the principles of love and unity..
Jesus appealed to the poor , the weak , and the lowly,
and he made their load light..
{ Matthew 11:28 -30 }

He stood out in sharp contrast to the Jewish religious leaders,
who lorded it over the people , burdening them with a heavy
load of rules.
{ Luke 11:45, 46 }

Doing this and showing favoritism to the rich and prominent certainly did not harmonize with Christ's teachings.
{ James 2: 1-4 , 9 }

But as in { 1 Peter 5:2 }
Shepard the flock of God among you, exercising oversite ,
not by compulsion , but willingly ; not eagerly for base gain , but readily;
3: nor as exercising lordship over the ones alloted ( to you ),
but becomeing the example of the flock...

Put on the new personality which was created according to God's
will in true righteousness and loyalty. "
{ Ephesians 4: 24}

Learning from the perfect example of the impartial God,
Jehovah and haveing the prospect and according to His promise...
{ 2 Peter 3:13 }

But according to His promise , we look for new heavens and
a new earth , in which righteousness dwells...
as in.....

No more sickness, no more pain, no more tears...
Look to Jehovah for comfort.. And Hope.....

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37355
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And that we might have " hope "..
{ Romans 15:5 } { Romans 15:4 }
{ Romans 15:8 } { Romans 15:9}

Promises and Mercy...
5 : And may the God of patience and encouragement give to you
to mind the same thing among one another according to Jesus Christ,
6: That with one accord ( and ) with one mouth you may glorify
( the ) God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ..
7: Because of this , recieve one another as Christ also recieved us, to ( the ) glory of God ,
8: And I say , Jesus Christ has become a minister of circumcision and for ( the ) truth of God , to confirm the promises of the fathers,
9: and for the nations to glorify God for mercy , even as it has been written ,
" Because of this , I will confess to You in the nations,
and I will give praise to Your name. "
{ Psalm 18:49 }

13: And may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace
in believing , for you to abound in hope , in power of
( the ) Holy Spirit...
The God of all comfort... 2 Corinthians 2...
2 : Grace to you and peace from God our Father and( the )
Lord Jesus Christ,
3 : Blessed ( be ) the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of compassions and God of all comfort ,
4: the ( One ) comforting us on all our afflictions , for us to be able to comfort thoses in every affliction,
through the comfort by which we ourselves are comforted by God.

And let there be hope....

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37425
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Yet." Keep on the watch "

In Ancient times ,
gatekeepers served at city and temple entrances and,
in some instances , at the doorways of private homes.
Besides ensuring that the gates were closed at night,
gatekeepers also served as watchmen..
This was a very responsible assignment,
for the saftey of the city depended on their calling out to warn
the people of any impending danger..

Jesus Christ was aquainted with the role of gatekeepers,
also called doorkeepers..
On one occasion , he liked his disciples to doorkeepers and
encourged them to keep on the watch with respect
to the conclusion of the Jewish system of things..
He said : " Keep looking, Keep awake, for you do not know
when the appointed time is..
It is like a man traveling abroad that left his house.......
commanded the doorkeeper to keep on the watch.
Therefore keep on the watch,
for you do not know when the master of the house is comeing."
{ Mark 13:33-35 }

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #37494
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And sometimes I think of how things could have been in
a different kind of world..
One with no toxic metals no pollution no wars no imperfections...
and we all have them... but what really gets me the most of all..
and I still believe is causeing alot of the havoc on this planet are....

Revelation 11:18 ... and to thoses destroying the earth....
And the ones that are doing alot of the polluting...
and plundering and just you know..
Causeing alot of pain in this world....
And this is so true... I do believe..
As they say.. Well the Bible says...
Because of...
The " love " of money is the root of all evil..
and that fits for today for sure..
Is.. Rev 18:3... The merchants of the earth who become rich from the power of her luxury..
Or.. Revelations 18:11..
And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her,
because no one buys their cargo anymore...
And of the cargo of....
13 : and of the bodies and souls of men...
I mean how many lives does a person need to live anyway..
to be able to totally destroy this planet and all life within..
just one.. Just once could be enough...
I mean..
I couldn't image a worse fate then comeing back again and again...
just to watch humans destroy all life on this planet...
To see another Hitler or Stalin or even worse then that ....
Once is enough thats for sure... and thats all I believe they get..
At least thats what the Bible says..
In Zephaniah 1:18 says...
Their silver and gold won't be able to deliver them in the day in
the wrath of Jehovah ...

As God is not too fond of thoses ruining the earth either and neither am I..
But...
I don't think they will stop doing it either..
As long as they can.. they will....
It will go on.... Thats what I believe..
As writen... thats what they'll do...
They will continue on doing it....
Same ol same ol....
Bringing the world lots of pain and sorrow....
In the process...

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I think of that song By Julie Gold.. (((( Smiles ))))

" From a Distance "

From a distance , we all have enough,
and no one is in need,
There are no guns or bombs, no disease,
No hungry mouths to feed.
From a distance , we are instruments
Marching in a common band;
Playing songs of peace,
They're the songs of every man...

I allways loved that song...
Especially when Bette Midler sang it..
The only problem is..
It's not the song of every man...
As Jesus said while he was on this planet..
There will be wars and rumors of wars..
So this is what the world will go through..
Till as one of my favorite Psalm's goes..
The ending of all wars on earth..
And in heaven as well...
There will be a cleaning and a renewal and all things will
be made new..
And then there will be no more wars..
No more sadness...
No more injustices...
No more No more..
Hallelujah..
Untill then.. This is what we all go through....
Untill that hope... That promise is fufilled...
In my dreams and in reality..
Thats the promise...

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Yes... Psalm... With all the sadness and pain and sorrow in this world..
Corruption.... Power hunger...
Everybody wants to rule the world..
Well not everybody but enough do...
Thats all it takes...
But only God can do that in my opinion with true fairness and justice..
And in righteous and lasting peace...
And God is not a human either...
But...
Who will heal the world ???
Break all spears... Stop all the madness..
In my beliefs.. This will be it... Thats how it will all stop..
The world is changeing as we speak..
Slowly melting away.. Into ruin.... Pollution and destruction..
A man made mess yet.. God will finnish it off..
And cease all man made wars.....
Thats the refuge and hope..

Psalm 46..

1 .. God is our refuge and strength , very much found to be a help in distresses..

2.. On account of this we will not fear when the earth changes and when mountains are slipping into the heart of the seas.

3.. Let it's waters foam, let the mountains shake in it's swelling.

4.. There is a river , it's channels gladden the city of God, the holy tabernacles of the Most High.

5.. God is in the midst of her; she shall not be shaken ; God will help her at the turning of the morning..

6.. The nations roared ; kingdoms were shaken; He gave forth his voice, the earth melted.

7.. Jehovah of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is a refuge for us.

8... Come behold the works of Jehovah , who sets ruins on the earth;

9... causeing to cease wars to the end of the earth ; He breaks the bow and cuts apart spears ; He burns the chariots in the fire.

10.. Be still and know that I am God ! I will be exalted in the earth..

11.. Jehovah of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is a refuge for us...

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----Psalm 37:29...

The righteous shall inherit the earth and live on it forever......
Will God let the world be destroyed ?
Will God Destroy the world ?

According to Pope John Paul 11, humans can look forward to the future with confidence..
Throughout our history, he noted " men have continued to commit sins , perhaps even greater then thoses described before the flood, "
Even so, the pope explained , " from the words of the covenant
God made with Noah we realize that now there is no sin that can bring God to destroy the world he himself created. "

Is it true that God will never destroy the world ?
The Bible states that after the Deluge, God said to Noah ;
No more will all flesh be cut off by waters of a deluge, and no
more will there occur a deluge to bring the earth to ruin. "
{ Genesis 9:11 }

The pope says that with theses words, God " commited himself "
to preserveing { the earth } from destruction. "
The Bible makes it clear that the Creator will not allow our planet to be destroyed.
" The earth is standing even to time indefinite, " says the Bible....
{ Ecclesiastes 1:4 }

But there is more to be learned from the deluge--- something that
the pope did not comment on...
Jesus said that conditions on earth at the time of his future presence would be " just as the days of Noah were ,
" when people " took no note untill the flood came and swept them all away...{ Matthew 24: 37-39 }

Similary, the apostle Peter wrote that just as " the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water ,"
so also " the day of judgement and of destruction of ungodly men " looms over the present world --- 2 Peter 3:5-7...

Did Jesus and Peter forget about God's covenant with Noah ?
By no means ! Just as he stated in the covenant with Noah,
God will not employ floodwaters to bring this wicked system
of things to an end:

Instead , he will use the might of the
" King of kings and Lord of lords, " Jesus Christ.
{ Revelations { Apocalpse } 19:11-21

According to the Bible , therefore , the earth ' will not be destroyed, but the " world " of evil mankind will without fail come to an end.
{ Proverbs 2:21,.22; Revelations 11:18 }

The meek shall inherit the earth as is written..

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In the Technological age, Pope calls on God to heal the world..
Pope Benedict XVI on Monday said that a world that has
achieved unimaginable scientific progress still needs God
in it's unending confrontation with hunger, hatred and war..
Despite the Internet , globalized economies and the ability to travel to the moon and mars.
" How can we not hear, from the very depths of this humanity,...
the heart -rending cry for help ? the pope asked..

Humankind's technological advance has not solved it's most vexing problems , the leader of the Roman Catholic Church added.
" In this post -modern age , perhaps he ( man ) needs a savior all the more, ' the pontiff said.
" since society in which he lives have become more insidious."
" Who can defend him (man) ,if not the One who loves him to the point of sacrificing on the Cross his only..
- begotten Son as the Savior of the world ? Benedict said.

I think about what the Pope said on scientific technology..
And it's true even though there are many medical breakthroughs...
and interesting concepts that will come through science and technology..
But scientific technology can't cure all the ill's and troubles of this world..
Can't reform a living soul.. Can't stop corruption or greed..
But can promote it. And technology also.. Can promote frightening wars..

It's too bad it cuts both ways.. The good with the bad...
Medical breakthroughs yet pollution and more ways to destroy the planet we all live on..
Some people like me and others on this planet..
Look for the comfort from all it from the promises of better days..
The Creator does not intend to let the earth deteriorate into
an uninhabitable trash dump..

In Isaiah 45:18, we read.. " This is what Jehovah has said..
He is the true God, the Former of the heavens and the earth and the Maker of it, He is the one that firmly established it,
who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited.
If God formed the earth to be inhabited, why has he let it reach this sad state? The Bible explains that man was orginally put in a paradise.
In fact, God purposed that this paradise reach the ends of the earth and be filled with people.
{Genesis 1:28}

However, rebellion broke out. The first man and women did not want to continue subject to God's rule..
God allowed humans to try their own way of ruling.
The results are what we see today, a disastrous failure.
Humans have clearly demonstrated that they cannot solve their problems.
The blame for what has happened cannot be put on God. What the Bible says is true of all human society:
They have acted ruinously on their own part; they are not his children, the defect is their own. A generation crooked and twisted!"
--- Deuteronomy 32:5.

Neverless, God has not turned a blind eye to earth's ruination.
He will act before it is too late, before the earth becomes an uninhabitable wasteland.
How do we know that?

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Revelation 11:18 explains:
" The nations became wrathfull, and your own wrath came,
and the appointed time ... to bring to ruin thoses ruining the earth." The ruining of the earth will be stopped..

Gods original purpose for the earth, that it be a paradise,
will still be fulfilled. God issued statements showing this.
For example, he said: " My word goes forth from my mouth...
will not return to me without results, but it will certainly do that in which I have delighted."
{Isaiah 55:11}

You may enjoy reading Isaiah chapter 35, where God describes the transformation of ruined lands into gardenlike parks and fruitfull fields.

Even now, when pollution is stopped, the earth has shown a remarkable capacity to renew itself. God created it to do so.
If the over-loading of the earth with pollutants is discontinued, a wide variety of microorganisms in water and soil can heal much of the damage..
Additionally, there is reason to believe that when God steps in and directs things, this rejuvenation process will be even more effective.
He can provide the training and perfect direction that humans now lack.

Hence the earth's future is not hopeless..
Plants and animals will be saved. Endangered species lists will be gone. Our air and water will be fresh again.
Obedient humans will be there to enjoy it. Would you like to see that? You can. How? The Bible gives details on what to do.
Why not make a systematic examination of the Bible to find out for yourself?
Why pass up the opportunity to learn how you and your family could enjoy a pristine environment forever?

Do you think humans are likely to solve theses complex problems ?
God's Word cautions : Do not put your trust in nobles , nor in the son of earthing man, to whom no salvation belongs. " In whom shall we trust?

The scripture continues:" Happy is the one who has the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in Jehovah God, the maker of heaven and earth."
"Only Jehovah , mankinds Creator, can solve the dilemmas that face human kind.
{ Psalm 146:3-6 }

Mankind will let you down everytime..

Many centuries ago the wise man Solomon spoke of one basic cause
of suffering when he said. " Man has dominated man to his injury. " { Ecclesiastes 8:9 }

However, the Bible allso points to a future time on earth under the rule of God's Kingdom when " no resident will say: I am sick. "
{ Isaiah 33:24} { Matthew 6:9,10}

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Yes.. What theses chemicals, pesticides, heavy metals,
and pollution can do to ones body and in my beliefs as we are allready imperfect because of mankinds fall..
In my beliefs and the beliefs I do share with others who feel this way too..

Then there are the triggers that effect our imperfection and vunerablilitys..
That create biological ones and effect our chemistry make up and DNA even more.... Thru the generations of time...

Pollution May Change Male Frogs into Female Frogs ...
Frogs that started as male tadpoles were changed into females by
the estrogen. Like pollution similar to thoses found in the environment..

Threatened with extention..

Even tadpoles exposed to the weakest concentrate of the hormones
where in one of two groups twice as likely to become female.
Recieveing the heaviest dose of extrogen became 95 to 100 percent
female.. Pollution changes he frogs into she frogs....

Then there is the estrogen like activity of metals...

Copper, cobalt, nickel, lead,tin, chromium, vandate...
And how about cadmium's...

It disguise and dupes the extrogen recepter..

How about breast cancer..
How about the heavy metals that do leak over time in ones teeth..
Actually how much metals do we need in our bodies before damage
is done overtime...

It's in the environment as pollution as well....
Endocrinology... National Cancer Institute

http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/144/6/2425

Forget about it just being a neurotoxin...

We cannot keep our system pristine and clean, because we are seperated from our toxic environment only...
by semi-permeable membranes:skin and mucosal surfaces.

Toxins almost never come alone. They come in synergistically acting package-deals.

http://www.detoxmetal.com/NewFiles/ReviewPearls.html

Pollution of heavy metals has been around in history alot longer
then recent.. It goes way back in time as well..
Maybe lost in history as well going back even further.......
I wonder what effect that had on breathing in and touching and drinking for their believed great qualitys in regards to health..

Effect they had on people in the past..

That got passed down through the generations in effect...
Alchemy lead to the discovery of amalgams as well....
There's nothing new under the sun...
In my beliefs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy
Or Chemicals In Foods...

Food allergies and intolerances...
Great indepth link...

http://www.tuberose.com/Chemicals_in_Food.html

How about the Synergistic effects of some metals contaminating
marine life... Contaminating mussels...
You can find thoses studies and reports all over the web..
Just pick up your local newspaper..
Lots of people know about this stuff allready..

Fires Fuel Mercury Emissions.. University Of Michigan study..
Forest fires release more mercury into the atmosphere than previously recognized..
Also...

Forests act as mercury traps because mercury in the atmosphere—which comes from both natural and
human-generated sources such as coal-fired power plants and municipal waste incinerators—collects on foliage.
When the foliage dies, it falls to the forest floor and decomposes, and the mercury enters the soil...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/01/070109172159.htm

It ends up in our water supply..
The ocean , lakes , rivers...
It contains Pathogens , cholera , typhoid , heptitis B, microorganisms,
toxic chemicals , heavy metals , excreted pharmaecuticals...

Dumping all that raw sewage..

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0012832

Can't do anything about all that right....
So go ahead...
Blame the cow...
Forget about the Perchlorate in cows milk that ends up in humans.
You know rocket fuel and what it possibly does to us and the cows..
And who knows what else the cows may contain as they are probably
just as contaminated as we are..

It's easier just to get rid of the cows right ?
There are supposely 18 percent of the green house pollution
in more then one way..
But whats mercury got to do with the cow's...

Some experts call for removal of more heavy metals from waste
before it is used as feed or fertilzer..

Besides the hormones residues that are found in cow manure..
And the cows themselves..
Also are found arsenic , lead , cadium and mercury and it
can collect in cattles's organ's and tissues..

It's not the cows that are the biggest problem..
It mankind..
As how did all thoses contaminates got into the cow's in the first place..
Perchlorate as well...

I say when it comes to cow manure..
Incinerate it.. Burn it...
Before it reaches our waterways and decomposes and harms us all.
Like thats the only contamination out there anyway..

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060818-ethanol_2.html

Yes.. To thoses ruining the earth...
While Christians may appreciate the efforts of the medical community in the difficult battle against deadly microbes.
Yet, they know the lasting solution to disease and death rests with God, the one " Who is healing all your maladies...
{ Psalm 103:1-3 } {Revelations 21:1-5;22:1,2}

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Plus.. I believe we are in the last days..
Since the restoration of Israel..
The countdown according to scripture..

Men and women...
Are spreading around the word..
The good news..
The prophesy of Joel 2:28..
And Acts 2:16..

Todays calling..
And we will be rejoiceing under Kingdom rule..
An equal inhertance..

What sort of ruler will Jesus prove to be?
When he was on earth, he displayed a deep love for people.
Jesus compassionately gave food to the hungry.
He healed the sick and restored sight to the blind,
speech to the speechless, and soundness of limb to the lame.
Jesus even brought back the dead to life!
( Matthew 15:30-38; Mark 1:34 Luke 7:11-17 )

Thoses miracles were foregleams of the marvelous things he
will yet do as King..
How wonderfull it will be to have such a beneficent ruler!
At that time the eyes of the blind one will be opened,
and the very ears of the deaf ones will be unstoped.
At that time the lame one will climb up just as a stag does,
and the tongue of the speechless one will cry out in gladness."
{ Isaiah 35:5,6 }

Pointing ahead to that grand day,
the apostle John wrote: "I heard a loud voice from the throne say: Look!
The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples.
And God himself will be with them.
And he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.
The former things have passed away."
Revelation 21:3,4..

But first the good news has to be shared..
God instructed it to be so..
In thoses latter days..

No politician on earth can deliver that..
And there's only "a short period of time " remaining untill Armageddon, when God destroys the word system that Satan controls..

And then a new political if one wants to call it that..
Or Kingdom rule will begain..
No more sickness No more Pain No more Worries No more Tears..
Now thats happiness..

You know of any politician that can deliver that??
I think alot of people in this world are sick of politics
and polticians.. Just hopeless...
They want real change and then there is this..

So there it is....

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Revealing Israel's Great Restoration...
As a nation, and how it will effect the entire world...

How the Old and New Testament Interlock..
Zechariah's Prophetic Vision for the New World..
Zechariah.. Interesting reading..

It's the beginning of a new day..
But not the day....
But the day or the days to come..
And it shall..

It all starts from there...
How it all will unfold....
From Daniel to Revelations..
The dawn of a new day....

No more wars no more sickness no more pain..
No more crime no more fear...
All tears will be washed away....

Matthew 5:34:
But I say to you, Do not swear at all, neither by Heaven,
because it is God's throne nor by the earth, because it is
the footstool of His feet; nor by Jerusalem, because it is
(the) city of the great King.
{Isaiah 66:1, Psalm 48:2}

Malachi 3:6..
For I am Jehovah , I change not.

Hebrew 1:8:
but as to the Son " Your throne, ( 0 ) God, ( Is ) to the age of the age,
A scepter of righteousness ( is ) the scepter of Your Kingdom,
9: You loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God,
Your God has annointed You ( with ) the oil of gladness above Your
fellows." { Psalm 45:6,7 }
10: and, " You, Lord founded the earth at ( the ) beginning ; and the
heavens are works of Your hands.
11: They will vanish away, but You will continue; and (they) will all
become old, like a garment,
12: and You shall fold them up like a covering, and ( they ) shall be
changed, But You are the same , and Your years shall not fail."
{ Psalm 102:25-27}
13: But to which of the angles did He ever say,
" Sit at My right ( hand ) untill I place Your enemys ( as ) a footstool
of Your feet ?" { Psalm 110:1 }
14: Are they not all ministering spirits for service , being sent out
because of the (ones) being about to inherit salvation ?

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For Christ did not enter into (the) (Holy of) Holies made by hands,
antitypes of the true things, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf,
not that often He should offer Himself even as the high priest enters into the (Holy of) Holies year by year with blood of others;
since He must often have suffered from (the) foundation of the world.
But now once , at the completion of the ages, He had been revealed for putting awayof sin through the sacrifice of Himself.
And it is reserved to men once to die, and after this judgement;
so Christ, haveing been once offered to bear ( the) sins of many,
( He) shall appear a second (time) without sin to the (ones) expecting Him for salvation..
{ Hebrews 9: 24-28 }

then He said, " Lo, I come to do Your will , O God," He takes away the first in order that He may set up the second;
by which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
And indeed every priest stands day by day ministering,
and often offering the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
But He , offering but one sacrifice for sins, sat down in perpetuity
(at the) right (hand) of God,
{ Hebrew 10:9-12}

Now a summary over the things being said:
We have such a High Priest ,
who sat down on (the) right of the throne of the Majesty in Heaven,
Minister of the ( Holy of) Holies, and of the true tabernacle which the Lord raised up, and not man.
{ Hebrews 8:1-2}

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Yes... Animals..
Even the animals will be at peace...

Hosea 2:18...
And in that day I will cut a covenant for them with the beasts of the field,
and with the birds of the sky, and the creeping things of the ground,
And I will break the bow and the sword,
and the battle out of the earth,
and I will make them to lie down safely..
19: And I will betroth you to Me forever, Yes,
I will betroth you to Me in righteousness and in judgement,
and in mercy, and in compassions..
20: I will even betroth you to me in faithfullness.
And you shall know Jehovah.
21: And it shall be in that day, I will answer says Jehovah,
I will answer the heavens, and they shall answer the earth..

Or Isaiah 11:1: And a Shoot goes out from Jesse,
and a Branch will bear the fruits out of his roots..
2: And the Spirit of Jehovah shall rest on Him;
He will have the spirit of wisdom and understanding,
the spirit of counsel and power, the spirit of knowledge
and the fear of Jehovah..
4: But he shall judge the poor in righteousness,
and shall decide rightly for the meek of the earth...

6 : And the wolf shall live with the lamb;
and the leopard shall lie with the kid ; and the calf and the young lion
and the fatling together; and alittle boy leads them.
7: The cow and the bear shall feed; their young shall lie together
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8: And the infant shall play on the hole of the asp,yea,
the weaned child shall put his hand on the viper's den.
9: They shall not do evil, not destroy in all my holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of Jehovah,
as the waters cover the sea....

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Yes.. A bear hug.. ((( Smiles )))

I like that bear for sure..
Makes me think of honey though and honey makes me think of bees..
Yes.. been thinking of bee's lately how much they do for us in
life.. But I really like reading Isaiah..

And I was also thinking of this too...
Many bible names are still popular today..
In some cases theses names actually included the personal
name of God.

Here are a few examples of such names and their meaning.

Joanna-- " Jehovah Has Been Gracious "
Joel----- " Jehovah is God "
John---- " Jehovah has Shown Favor "
Johnathan-- " Jehovah Has Given "
Joseph --- " May Jah Add " *
Joshua -- " Jehovah is Salvation "

Hallelujah....
What comes to your mind when you hear the term " Hallelujah " ?

Perhaps it reminds you of Handel's " Messiah , " a musical masterpiece from the 1700's that features the dramatic Halleujah chorus.
Or you make think of the famous American patriotic song,
" The Battle Hymn of the Republic " also known as " Glory, Hallelujah,"
Surely, from one source to another, you have heard the word " Hallelujah,"

Perhaps you even use it from time to time..
But do you know what it means ?

Hallelujah-- The english transalation of the Hebrew expression
ha-lelu-Yah', " meaning praise Jah, " or praise Jah, you people."

Jah-- A poetic shortened form of the name of God, Jehovah.
It appears in the Bible more then 50 times , often as part of the expression , " Hallelujah."

Interesting. Growing up as I child I knew it was a praise of sort as you hear it in songs..
But wasen't sure the exact meaning behind it...

But I think of the Prayer of Habakkuk..
How long , Oh Lord , must I cry out..
The intense feeling he must of felt at the time...

http://www.2001translation.com/Habakkuk.htm

The Old Testament is really deep...

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #40222
08/18/08 05:33 PM
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Bees what would we do without them???
Hope we never find out...
Interesting Site...

http://www.truechristian.org/who_is_yehovah/

Thats it.. Yehovah/ Jehovah...
Or...

http://www.seekfirst.com/node/260

Yehovah/Jehovah Yehowah... Jahoweh

There is so many opinions out there on how to pronounce
God's name..

To determine the correct pronounciation of the
Divine Name of God, using the Hebrew Tetragram,
"Carr used a computer to sift through all the relevant
vowel/consonant combinations found in Hebrew scripture.
The computer eventually narrowed the list to 'e' 'o'
and 'a' or YeHoWaH (Jehovah in English)."

--The Daily Breeze

Many biblical names Started with the Tetragram,
and give insite as to how we would pronounce
The Great Divine Name of God.

Or...

Briefly, the Tetragrammaton is composed of four Hebrew consonants - YHVH or YHWH ().
The third letter in Hebrew is known as a vav and is pronounced by different proponents as either a V or a W,
thus the two different spellings here.
For purposes of this discussion,
this particular distinction is irrelevant.

Or Yehovah " Yah "

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Or..

The great name YHWH is vocalized
as "Yehowah" in Hebrew

Or...

"The correct pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton
is either Yahohwah or Yahuwah. This can be shown
from the use of the name in poetry and proper names
that include the Tetragrammaton, such as Yahu-nathan
or Eli-Yahu. "

But In Psalm 83:13 it says....
O my God, make them as whirling dust , as the stubble before the wind,
14: As the fire burns a forest , and as the flame sets the mountains on fire.
15: so pursue them with your tempest,
and frighten them with Your tempest, and frighten them with Your storm..
16: Fill their faces with shame and they will seek Your name,
O Jehovah..
17: Let them be ashamed and terrified forever; yes,
let them be confounded and perish..
18: And let them know--- Your name is Jehovah---
that you alone are the Most high all over the earth....

Though I'm still of the belief of such as in Act's 2..
That God is an expert in tounges...
And hears what people say in all languages of the world..
Like it's O.K. to say Jesus in Greek as the Apostles did..
As it was written in Greek..
Yet.. I do like the idea of useing a name as in Isaiah 56:6..
To serve Him and to Love Jehovah's name..
In what ever language one speaks..
As it's there in the Bible as written as..
To refer too...
Maybe someday all language will be one again..
When God chooses to do so again..

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #40420
08/21/08 05:30 AM
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Yes..

The Bible says..
" The one listening to me will reside in security and be undisturbed from dread of clamity."
{ Proverbs 1:33 }

You have arrived at a fork in the road..
One sign says, " Invest your future in humans and their promises.
" The other sign reads, Trust in God and his Kingdom..
" Which way will you go?

The wise course is to trust in God..
The Bible explains why humans are unable to rule competently..
The Bible foretold the woeful conditions marking the present
" last days."
We can see theses with our own eyes..
{ Matthew 24:3-7;2} { Timothy 3:1-5}
The Bible even predicted that humans would threaten the very health of the planet..
God will " bring to ruin thoses ruining the earth,
says Revelations 11:18..

When thoses words were penned some 2,000 years ago,
phenonmena such as pollution of air, sea, and land; global warming ; and mass extinction of species would have been inconeviable .
But not now!
Yes, God never lies.
His written Word is always fulfilled in every detail."
{ Titus 1:2 } Hebrews 6:18 }
In fact God stakes his name on his word..
In his Holy Name we have put our trust, said a Bible writer who often expirenced God's loveing care..
{ Psalm 33:21;34:4,6}

Because he has set his love on Me, therefore I will deliver him ; I will set him on high,
because he has known My name.
He shall call on Me and I will answer him; I will be with him
in distress; I will rescue him and honor him.
I will satisfy him with length of days and will make him see My salavation.--- Psalm 91:14-16...

The name of Jehovah is a tower of strength; the righteous run into it, and it is set on high..
-- Proverbs 10...

Can the planet earth be saved?
The answer is a resounding yes!
As caretakers of Gods creation, we should do our best to respect the environment--- Psalm 115:16...

However, only through divine intervention will the ecosystems be brought back into balance.
Our " Grand Maker" promises that he will turn his attention to the earth and " give it abundance.
---- Job 35:10... Psalm 65:9-13..

This includes the seas and everything in them because as the creator, Jehovah God has power over the seas..
--- Psalm 95:5; 104:24-31

And what He promise is sure to come because God " cannot lie".
--- Titus 1:2..

To know the earth will sustain future generations is most reassuring.
This moves all who fear God to praise him for his abundant wisdom, power, and goodness and to laud him for all
his love for his creative works..
--- Psalm 150:1-6...

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #40437
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I like those Lynn...


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Jeanie] #40442
08/21/08 07:13 PM
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Hi Jeanie, ((( Smiles )))

Glad you like that..
The world is in such a mess theses days..
I look forward to thoses promises comeing about..
Lot to think about..
Lots going on in the world theses days..
And I also think of Johns message to Pergamon,
the risen Christ says that Antipas, " my faithfull witness,"
was killed " among you, where Satan dwells."
{ Revelation 2:13 }

Interesting Scripture for sure...

Take Care
Lynn

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #40444
08/21/08 07:32 PM
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We really do have to keep positive. It's possible amongst the storms to have peace... Some days I just can't dwell on all the garbage going on.


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Jeanie] #40446
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Hi Jeanie, ((( Smiles ))))

Yes Postive...
But also the reality of the world bites too..
It all goes together...

Take Care
Lynn

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #40448
08/21/08 07:50 PM
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Definitely - you can't turn a blind eye, either. Some days, though, I just need to turn off the news and kind of regroup, I guess, and focus on building myself up which is what you are doing reading your scriptures! : ) (The point being - you can still have peace : ) Your thoughts make for nice contemplation....


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Jeanie] #41849
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Plus.. I'm reading an interesting book....
Of course from a Biblical perspective..
This book is rather interesting indeed....
It's called When Death Comes by Keith Harris...
A study of death and afterlife which so many people are interested in..
We all got to go someday and we all do..
Thats life... But's interesting to note..
That alot of different Christian ministries...
Like Keith is a evangelist minister and I've read of others
As well..

Who believe.. Our new dwelling... our eternal home..
Will be on a newly purified earth...
Heaven knows we need one..
This one isn't doing that well..
it's kind of falling apart at the seams..
Polluted melting and not everybody is totally sure..
where it all will lead but it doesn't look good no matter what..
But this is a very interesting concept of..
God to dwell with man..
Interesting indeed.......
In...
A literal city on a literal earth..
This earth...
a newly purified earth...
Lets see what they base that concept on....
Interesting book indeed...

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #41850
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The concept is.. In their opinion based on scripture...
As based on this interesting book...
There is controversy today about weither heaven is a state of being..
or an actual place.. It is both..
It is a literal place and a blissfull place.
It is the " Fathers house, " a place with many mansions..
It is the place that Jesus has gone to prepare..
{ Matt. 14: 1-6 }
It is the new city, New Jerusalem...
This place will be heavenly because God will be there..
It will be physical and spiritual..
Our existence , as well as our new home,
will be more then a mere ethereal existence...

The earth will not be annihilated by fire, as some believe..
The Greek for " passed away " in 2 Peter 3:10,12,
where this burning of this Earth by fire is found,
is parerchomani.. In short , this word means...
" to change from one condition to another."
This change will occur when the Earth is burned and purified by fire..
( global warming ?)

Like on that subject ??? Of how it's done..
We are just going to have to wait and see what happens..
As it's an interesting question but not (the) answer.....
But scripture does say there will be a new heaven and a new earth..
as the former has passed away..
I think it's an interesting concept indeed....

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #41851
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And continueing on this concept based on Scripture in this
interesting book..

A New Eternal City...
In addition to the new heaven and new Earth,
John see's a holy city, New Jerusalem, comeing down from God out of heaven..
Note that it is the city, not the earth that decends..
The new Earth on which the city sit's, shall be, and indeed allready is , in place..
To us it will be a city, to the Father, it is a house..
Many mansions of the Fathers house will constitue a city...
We will be with Him forever { Thess 4:17}
and He will dwell in the new city.
{ Rev 21:3-4,23 }

And the brightness of God's glory as witnessed by Paul,
will outshine even the midday sun..
{ Acts 26:13}

Perfect security , nothing will be threatening..
Perfect bliss.. I can't image a place such as that..
liveing in the world in the state it is in now..
But sounds awesome indeed...

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #41852
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Plus it talks about the Three Heavens...

When referring to heaven, Scripture relates that there are three:
the atmospheric heaven surrounding the earth ,
the heaven of the universe, and the third heaven,
where God currently dwells...
The third heaven , a paradise..
{ 11 Cor 12:4 }
John was caught up into the third heaven..
{ Rev, 4:1 }

We have just seen that God will dwell with man in the heavenly place..
called New Jerusalem..
it will exist on the Earth surrounded by the newly purified atmospheric heaven..
Interesting...
New Heavens and a New Earth..
some to earthly or heavenly hope...
because scripture refere's to both..

And the body returns to the dust of the Earth..
{ Gen 3:19 } { Job 34:15 } { Psa 104:29 }
" his breath goes forth , he returneth to the earth;
in that very day his thoughts perish "
{ Psalm 146:4 }

" Thoughts " eshtonah means " thinking ".
And the spirit or life-force of the body goes back to God who gave it..
{ Eccl, 12: 7 }
And in { Genesis 6:3 } it says...
And Jehovah said, My Spirit shall not allways strive with man,
in their erring he is flesh..
and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years...

Interesting..
As people have lived into there hundred and twentys theses days..
Rarely though...
If they are lucky to make it that far..
of course ones health does matter in liveing that long...
It's rare to be feeling real good into ones 100's..
Though it can happen....

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #41853
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So according to this book I'm reading....
The Perspective is.. Based on Scripture...

There will be purification of the earth for it's eternal state..
{ II Peter 3:10 }
And then after the Earth's cleansing by fire,the new city,
New Jerusalem, will sit upon the newly cleansed Earth and will..
become our eternal home..
{ Jn.14:1-4 }

The Earth will be free from all sin..
{ II Peter 3:10; Rev,22:14-15 }
It is presently held in reserve for this day of cleaning..
{ II Peter 3:7 }

Despite contrary belief, the earth we now enjoy is establised forever..
{ Psa. 78:69} { Eccl, 1-4 }
Changed from one condition to another.. parerchoma...

There's more in detail on all this in this book ..
But what about animals..
What happens to them..
The book goes into that subject too...
But yes the animals..
Even the animals will be at peace..
What a paradise indeed!

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #42839
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A God Of Wisdom Gives Ample Warning

What about survivors ?
Indeed, no one needs to perish at Aramageddon.
The apostle Peter observed : " Jehovah .... does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain repentance."
{ 2 Peter 3:9 }

And the apostle Paul stated that God's " will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.."
{ 1 Timothy 2:4 }

To the end, Jehovah has wisely made sure that the " good news of the Kingdom " is proclaimed far and wide , in hundreds of languages...
People everywhere are being given the opportunity for survival and salvation...
{ Matthew 24:14 } { Psalm 37:34 } { Phillippians 2:12 }

Those who respond favorably to the good news can survive Armageddon and live forever in perfection on a paradise earth.
{ Ezekiel 18:23, 32 } { Zephaiah 2:3 } { Romans 10:13 }

Is this not what one can expect from a God who is love ?
{ 1 John 4:8

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #44642
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Mediterranean Sea Warming Up

"For ten years we have been registering... the tropicalization of the Mediterranean," says Maurizio Wurtz,
marine biologist at Genoa University in Italy.
The report, contained in the Italian newspaper La Repubblica says that the warm waters are attracting new aquatic plants and animals.
" Numerous species", says Wurtz "are moveing from the African coast to the north of the Mediterranean."

The immigrants include parrot fish, orginally from tropical waters; damselfish from tropical latitudes of the Atlantic;
triggerfish, which normally live in the Indian and Pacific oceans; and an alga that has made it's way into the Mediterranean
by the way of the Suez Canal.

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #47006
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Going Going Gone???
Say what??

Climate change is "largely irreversible" for the next 1,000 years even if carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions could be abruptly halted,
according to a new study led by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

http://green.yahoo.com/news/afp/20090127/ts_alt_afp/uswarmingenvironmentclimate.html

Weither one believes there is global warming or not..
They are definitely ruining the planet..
And even though some changes in regard to pollution is a good idea for health reasons..
Though a good start also would be to take out all thoses additives in the vaccinations and no more mercury ever..
in products sold to the public like as even in ones teeth..
Or even stop this spraying {Chemtrails} in the sky..
Would that be likely or possible???
But to just throw lots of money at the so called impossible..
"largely irreversible" for the next 1,000 years..
Even after Co2 emissions could be abruptly halted..
And I don't know if thats possible anyway..
Just boggles the mind this world is such a big mess as is..
Does any of this make sense???
I guess it all depends on how one looks at it.
Then maybe it does.

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #49745
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A God Of Wisdom Gives Ample Warning

Insecurity a Global Disease..
Watch out!

God will give this world what it desires: Saul instead of David,
Barabbas instead of Jesus, the antichrist instead of Christ.
The return of the Lord is near and the Judge is standing at the door.

The environmental crisis, international terrorism and the worldwide financial crisis are driving our world toward unity and in the direction of a last
" world giant " prophesied of in the Bible.

The depression of the 1930's in Germany brought the end of parliamentry democracy in that country.
Hitler rose to power.

The world is rebelling increasingly against God and His Anointed One.
[Psalm 2]

The signs of the times make us sit up and remind us of the fact that we are liveing in the last phase of human history.
In the so- called seals of judgement, political, social, economic and military upheavals are prophesied, which reminds us of the present-day developments.

Re: Going Going Gone.. Who owns the arctic who owns the world??? [Re: Lynnmn] #63035
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A God Of Wisdom Gives Ample Warning!
Insecurity is a global disease!
What's eating you?

About Diet was reading that: Eating a High-Fat Diet May Rapidly Injure Brain Cells That Control Body Weight.
In this study they saw a developed inflammation in the hypothalamus.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110608161533.htm

And we do live in a junk food society with MSG and Aspertame and other flavorants and additives involved.
And also with seeing more and more people, children and babies over the years being injected with additives contained in the vaccines and knowing what those additives can be...
Totally an eye opener what they are plus additives are in about everything it seems, these days.
We are constantly being polluted and not just this planet we happen to live on.
No wonder people have been getting sicker and sicker in this fallen world of constant choices that are not always good for us.
Sometimes we make choices that "we believed" were for the greater good at the time...
to find out later that what we didn't know at the time could still possibly hurt us.
And even antibiotics which could possibly save someone comes with a double edged sword with overuse and abuse.
We have fallen far from the Garden of Eden and the health and longevity of our ancient forefathers.
Satan has taken a firm grip on this world it has degraded over time, not evolved.
Thats what the Bible says is happening. This system of things will pass away not get better.
And people are being told they can save the planet we "need to save" the planet urgent!
But the Bible says we cannot only God can save us all from our fate to come. So either we can believe God or we can believe them.
This world is all about choices when it boils down to it. We all eventually will have to choose. There is no other way out... But this.


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