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Need help with Schizophrenia cause #70702
04/18/13 02:07 AM
04/18/13 02:07 AM
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cjames  Offline OP
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My mom (70 yrs old) is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia for past 5 yrs. She was taking antipsychotic drugs all the while and for the past two years started showing parkinson disease. Due to multiple side effects like severe vertigo and tremor, I started changing the meds to alternative medicine. Gradually decreased antipsychotic drugs and now she is taking Niacin and omega 3 which is taking of mood disorder.

Recently due to a self fall, she was operated hemi replacement arthroplasty with bipolar prosthesis. Ever since she is suffering severe nervous downfall and dementia related symptoms. I recently found that she has one of her tooth filled with silver filling.

Cause for all this is still a mystery and is this one tooth filled with mercury causing all this? Any suggestion would be of great help.

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70713
04/18/13 09:41 AM
04/18/13 09:41 AM
Abigail  Offline
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Greetings cjames, smile
Thank you for your note. I am moving our Administrator's, Russ Tanner's reply to another persons question, to front, so you can see a simple answer to your question.(From Mercury Forum 10/05/06).

There are so many other things involved here as well. Did you happen to read the "Diseases and Conditions", forum on this website? (You can scroll down several topics, and perhaps you'll see something there that may help.)

The one amalgam can cause problems, but it seems highly unlikely that just one would cause so much affliction. Russ will probably come along later to add his thoughts.
Everybody's body is made so differently. Because of persoanl health problems, I have about 5 amalgams, that cannot be replaced at this time. I've had them for over 25 years. I am taking DMSA and ALGIN,(only purchesd through this site, see address in Russ' Signature.) and they have helped me immensely.

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star--Russ's Reply:Yes, mercury is well known to cause schizophrenia and other related disorders.
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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: Abigail] #70717
04/18/13 10:47 PM
04/18/13 10:47 PM
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cjames  Offline OP
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Thanks a lot for your note Abigail

I am suspecting that it could be because of her old age which is too much for one amalgam?

Any thoughts on metal femur support surgery causing new problems?

I have compared Russ' symptoms list and below seems to match

slurred speech
very poor digestion
alzheimer/dementia
depression
vertigo/bppv
fibromyalgia
insomnia
constipation
memory loss
Multiple Sclerosis
sudden fit of anger
parkinson's disease
schizophrenia
involuntary verbal sounds

I guess we can start chelation before the amalgam removal

Last edited by cjames; 04/18/13 10:49 PM.
Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70720
04/19/13 10:52 AM
04/19/13 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cjames
Thanks a lot for your note Abigail

Any thoughts on metal femur support surgery causing new problems?


I guess we can start chelation before the amalgam removal

--Hello Again, cjames!
I do NOT know a thing about "metal femur support surgery". It sounds like your dear mother has had enough "trials", and may need some time to let her body, just "rest" from all the medicines and treatments, as best you can. If she's on high-blood pressure medicine, etc, please don't stop that WITHOUT first consulting her Medical Doctor. Keep in mind, MOST medical Doctors are not knowledgeable about 'natural treatments'. You probably read that in Russ' heart attack testimony? He's listed in with several others that have had Chemtrails, and/or amalgam toxicity, (listed along the top of the page, as you enter "Merury Detox/Amalgam Filling" site, ).

ALGIN that Russ' Company sells on this forum (Nature's Sunshine) / Absorbs Heavy Metal Ions, and bulking action encourages normal elimination. One of his best sellers. I recommend this as well. ---------------
The DMSA supplement (metal chelator can be purchased here <www.VRP.com> Vitamin Research Products. It is not on sale at this time/ (April), but you may catch a specil online. There are two sizes 25mg. (120 cp) $29.95 / AND DMSA 100mg. (45 cp $39.95). I can't emphasize enough that everybody's bodies are different. What works for one MAY NOT work for another.

THEN, there is DetoxPro (Reduce your heavy metal burdens) that is sold only in Britain. They run good specials often. It's all in back pages on here, but I'll give you the email address, so you can check it out. IAS Antiaging
<ias@antiaging-systems.com>
On this webiste it is named "DetoxPro/ Reduce your heavy metal burdens.. I use this chelator from both of these Companies, as I catch the best sales, etc.

We are not medical professionals. But I can assure you that Russ Tanner and his partner Laura Clement, are very caring and helpful people, to those who are in need of health advice.Hope this helps, cjames. The Lord bless you as you make your decisions. (If you are a Christian, please pray for His guidance.)

cjames, I just checked online and the IAS does have it on sale, buy one get one free. I have scanned the address from the product, hope it helps. (It is non-toxic). They recommend taking 1-3 caps daily. [DetoxPro]. Best Wishes to you and your dear Mother! http://www.antiaging-systems.com/search/d







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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70724
04/19/13 02:37 PM
04/19/13 02:37 PM
Russ  Online Content

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cjames,

I'm sorry to hear about your mother's ailments.

All of those ailments you mentioned above...

slurred speech
very poor digestion
alzheimer/dementia
depression
vertigo/bppv
fibromyalgia
insomnia
constipation
memory loss
Multiple Sclerosis
sudden fit of anger
parkinson's disease
schizophrenia
involuntary verbal sounds

Are known to be symptoms of mercury toxicity.

Major sources of mercury toxicity are dentures (the red coloring often contains mercury), dental amalgams, sites where a CFL light bulb has broken, red tattoos, some cosmetics, and fish.

What is also alarming is that many pharmaceutical today cause symptoms identical to mercury poisoning.

I would try to eliminate the major sources of mercury first and see if you can make some headway.

Please let us know if we can help with more info of any kind.

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=68146#Post68146

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=30833#Post30833

Last edited by Russ; 04/19/13 02:38 PM.

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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70734
04/20/13 09:29 AM
04/20/13 09:29 AM
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cjames  Offline OP
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Posts: 11
Thanks a lot Abigail and Russ, appreciate your input. I am sure this must be lot helpful for others too. I really appreciate you guys trying to help out. I hope god be there with us.

I kinda strongly believe there should be a visible symptom either on the mouth or anywhere in the body. Any experience/suggestions on that?

And lastly Is there anyway I can get these products shipped overseas as I am based on India?

Last edited by cjames; 04/20/13 09:33 AM.
Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70735
04/20/13 09:33 AM
04/20/13 09:33 AM
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cjames  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 11
Thanks a lot Abigail and Russ, appreciate your input. I am sure this must be lot helpful for others too. I really appreciate you guys trying to help out. I hope god be there with us.

I kinda strongly believe there should be a visible symptom either on the mouth or anywhere in the body. Any experience/suggestions on that?

And lastly Is there anyway I can get these products shipped overseas as I am based on India?

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70736
04/20/13 10:27 AM
04/20/13 10:27 AM
Abigail  Offline
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Posts: 15,835 ****
Originally Posted by cjames
Thanks a lot Abigail and Russ, appreciate your input. I am sure this must be lot helpful for others too. I really appreciate you guys trying to help out. I hope god be there with us.

I kinda strongly believe there should be a visible symptom either on the mouth or anywhere in the body. Any experience/suggestions on that?

And lastly Is there anyway I can get these products shipped overseas as I am based on India?

Hello cjames!
Regarding the information I posted for you, You will note that along the sidebar there is under : Miscellaneous/ (left column my computer) "DELIVERY POLICY", For IAS, in Britain.

[cjames, I just checked online and the IAS does have it on sale, buy one get one free. I have scanned the address from the product, hope it helps. (It is non-toxic). They recommend taking 1-3 caps daily. [DetoxPro]. Best Wishes to you and your dear Mother! http://www.antiaging-systems.com/search/d ]

You will need to email and ask VRP if they ship overseas. I'm sorry I do not see it mentioned in this catalong in front of me. <www.VRP.com> This Company is in USA, Nevada

We need to move along, as there are many others with questions regarding this, I'm sure you understand. Best wishes.
Lastly, regarding your statement about exterior symptoms, the manin one that comes to mind is Candida. That is a rash anywhere on the body, usually the soft tissue area, under arms, and in genitals. There is no Mercury testing that is accurate.
Hope you get this, as we must move on to another customer. Blessings to you, cjames. highfive






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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: Abigail] #70744
04/20/13 04:42 PM
04/20/13 04:42 PM
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Michael  Offline
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Posts: 4
its maybe worth touching upon that the schizophrenia may well be caused more by her having lived a life where amalgam was always ruled out systematically as a cause.

all the ridicule on top torture. its got to be maddening.

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70764
04/23/13 02:15 AM
04/23/13 02:15 AM
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cjames  Offline OP
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Thanks Abigail. Anyone aware of effects of mercury on dopamine? Why do somebody struggle to maintain dopamine levels?

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70766
04/23/13 03:05 PM
04/23/13 03:05 PM
Abigail  Offline
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Originally Posted by cjames
Thanks Abigail. Anyone aware of effects of mercury on dopamine? Why do somebody struggle to maintain dopamine levels?

ideaYou are asking difficult questions, my friend. We live in a fallen world, and sickness abounds. Reasons for low dopamine levels can be a result of mercury toxicity. I'll do a C&P, as I'm not really knowledgeable in this area.
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IV. Toxic and immune reactive effects of mercury
Mercury:

Is neurotoxic (kills or damages brain and nerve cells)
Generates high levels of reactive oxygen species (ROS) and oxidative stress and depletes glutathione and thiols causing increased neurotoxicity from interactions of ROS, glutamate, and dopamine
Kills or inhibits production of brain tubulin cells
Inhibits production of neurotransmitters by inhibiting: calcium-dependent neurotransmitter release, dihydroteridine reductase, nitric oxide synthase, blocking neurotransmitter amino acids, and effecting phenylalanine, tyrosine and tryptophan transport to neurons.
Causes systemic methylation deficiencies, which are documented to commonly be a factor in chronic conditions such as depression and autism.

Numerous studies have found long-term chronic low doses of mercury cause neurological, memory, behaviour, sleep, and mood problems. Neurological problems are among the most common and serious effects of mercury, and include memory loss, moodiness, depression, anger and sudden bursts of anger or rage, self-effacement, suicidal thoughts and lack of strength or force to resolve doubts or resist obsessions or compulsions.

Many studies of patients with major neurological diseases have found evidence amalgam fillings may play a major role in development of conditions such as:

Depression
Schizophrenia
Memory problems
Serious neurological diseases such as MS, ALS, Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s diseases ... (continued - see below)
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Adding the website address,
<http://www.thenaturalrecoveryplan.com/articles/research-depression-mercury.html>
---Have you talked with your mother's Doctor regarding all these questions? Or is this YOU were are dealing with here? There are supplements that can be taken to raise dopamine levels. Maybe ask Russ? Keep in mind all of our bodies are made differently, and very complicated to the human's eye. Some Doctors are aware of things, but Russ, being the owner of the Herb Forum, is very knowledgeable in this--- So shall we ask him to join in? He may come along. I know he's busy. Best wishes!


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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70778
04/23/13 10:44 PM
04/23/13 10:44 PM
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cjames  Offline OP
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Thanks Abigail, I owe you a lot for this. I am not a doctor and am just dealing with this unbearable and dreadful disease which is causing stress to everyone in our family. Its costing a lot too.

We consulted a lot and we were either told that its because of age factor or were given some other crap to questions related to identifying root cause.

Forgot to mention that I am already aware of few dopamine sources like kidney beans, mucuna pruriens, etc. I have noticed that (when these supplements were given) Low levels of dopamine causes parkinsons and high levels causes schizophrenia.

I was just wondering why the body was unable to handle dopamine from couple of beans. Abigail, I appreciate your willingness to help and I totally understand if you dont have an answer for this.

I consulted with a holistic dentist and he is charging $220(equivalent) for removing one silver filling. I am still in a dilemma to undergo this procedure.

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70780
04/24/13 09:54 AM
04/24/13 09:54 AM
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cjames  Offline OP
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Is there any way I can order Algin and get it shipped overseas? I tried a link from one of the older posts and it didnt work. Meanwhile I have been crawling all websites to get an equivalent. I found detox formula cap and it seems heavily priced.

http://www.health-mall.in/productde...clear-detox-formula-180-veggie-caps.aspx

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia/See reply.... [Re: cjames] #70781
04/24/13 10:38 AM
04/24/13 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cjames
Is there any way I can order Algin and get it shipped overseas? I tried a link from one of the older posts and it didnt work. Meanwhile I have been crawling all websites to get an equivalent. I found detox formula cap and it seems heavily priced.
I consulted with a holistic dentist and he is charging $220(equivalent) for removing one silver filling. I am still in a dilemma to undergo this procedure.


Hello James, I am so sorry you are having such a stressful time in helping your dear Mom with this. I commend you on your time with her. The Lord bless you. James please have the silverfilling (whole tooth) REMOVED. Get this behind you. It will give you peace that she is not being poisoned by Mercury. Forget the price, PLEASE!
Regarding the address you had for detox, I would most definitely go with Russ' Company on getting the ALGIN. I say that because IT WORKS. Why throw money away not knowing the certainty of it's help. Please note that I have C&P Russ' information below. It gives a number to call for help worldwide. Please call and speak to Russ. I am going to direct him to this post. The Lord bless and guide you. ------------
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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70783
04/24/13 02:54 PM
04/24/13 02:54 PM
Russ  Online Content

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Hi cjames.

When I was mercury toxic, my body seemed to have issues with dopamine, although I never confirmed it. When I slept too long, for example, I would never be able to fully wake up throughout the day. Certain foods made me tired as well.

You can order Algin through us and we'll be happy to ship it to you. Just message me here on the forum with the number of bottles you want, or email Laura at laura@herballure.com and she'll be happy to get shipping prices to you.

Stock #: 675-1 - 100 Capsules
Member Price: 17.95
Retail Price: 26.95

If you order 2 or more bottles, you get it at member price.

Just let me know.

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For those in the U.S. who want to order, just use this website: http://onlythebestherbs.com/how.php?sn=675-1


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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70791
04/24/13 09:43 PM
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cjames  Offline OP
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Thanks Russ and Abigail. I have emailed Laura requesting two bottles with the shipping info.

Did you say remove the whole tooth instead of the filling? I thought removing the filling is sufficient. Oh god, most doctors will not do this as she is 70 (has bp)

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70796
04/25/13 09:23 AM
04/25/13 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cjames
Thanks Russ and Abigail. I have emailed Laura requesting two bottles with the shipping info.

Did you say remove the whole tooth instead of the filling? I thought removing the filling is sufficient. Oh god, most doctors will not do this as she is 70 (has bp)

Good Morning cjames!
I'm really glad you got the order in and I know this will help your Mom. It is my opinion to remove a tooth rather than re-drilling, and refilling, if possible, because to redrill it is scattering all the silver mercury around in her mouth. (If she doesn't need it, get the toxicity out.)
Now, Russ usually comes in a little later, but I will try to see what his thoughts are in this matter. You are most kind.

Keep in mind, once you order and become a Member, all future costs will be given at a lower cost. It's really a great deal with Russ' company. And it truly helps to absorb heavy Metal Ions and the bulking action encourages Normal elimination.

The Lord bless your endeavors, and please give your Mom a special hello from Abigail. I will pray for her, in the name of Jesus. Ask the Lord to guide your steps. Please read Psalm 23 in your Bible. If you don't have the best Book every written, read it online.
(I'll see if Russ has different thoughts regarding the removal rather than the drilling and re-filling.) bible


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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #70801
04/25/13 04:07 PM
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If precautions can be taken, leaving the tooth in has advantages. For one, if the nerve base is not completely removed, it can be a source of chronic infection. Of course, drilling a filling does have the disadvantage of exposing someone to mercury.

Generally speaking, it good to save a living tooth when possible, but that has to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

In case this hasn't been mentioned yet, the red coloring in dentures often has mercury in it, so those have to be avoided or at the very least, checked for mercury.

I'm sorry this is such a complicated process, but the government has made it difficult for us by setting up one bad policy after another.


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Originally Posted by Russ
If precautions can be taken, leaving the tooth in has advantages. For one, if the nerve base is not completely removed, it can be a source of chronic infection. Of course, drilling a filling does have the disadvantage of exposing someone to mercury.

Generally speaking, it good to save a living tooth when possible, but that has to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.


Hello cjames, I see you in the column. Have you decided what you'll do about your Mom's tooth? It's really up to you or the Doctor, as Russ said it is a case- by- case study basis. I have been praying for you to make the right decision.
Everything will be alright. Let us know how things go, because we truly care. She will do just fine. angelwing


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Thanks Russ and Abigail for your valuable inputs. I have made a dentist appointment and will update you how it goes.

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Atlast we had the tooth extracted with a regular oral surgeon smile. It came off in one piece

She is already showing subtle improvements from the next day. CFS is improving too.

I am very thankful to Russ, Abigail and others for their kindness.

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06/26/13 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cjames
Atlast we had the tooth extracted with a regular oral surgeon smile. It came off in one piece

She is already showing subtle improvements from the next day. CFS is improving too.

I am very thankful to Russ, Abigail and others for their kindness.

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Hello cjames! It is wonderful hearing from you! Thank you so much for the great news! We are so happy for you and your dear Mother. God Bless you and your precious Mother!
Take care. You have been a good sport about all this! I commend you. coolthumbsup


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Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #71492
06/27/13 04:16 PM
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Marc
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I brought this subject up in a previous post. And this is why I think that it is important not to fragment these categories too much. Many metal implants are made of titanium and other heavy metals and these too can cause problems similar to mercury toxicity. You see a whole slew of commercials on T.V about metal implant recalls and law suits associated with these. When are people going to learn that metal implants of any kind in any part of the body is not healthy?!!!!

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Marc, I totally agree with you on the metal part. One more logic is even a kidney (or whatever) transplant from the donor is being rejected by the body and how can a metal be accepted. I say the doctors should stop treating our body as Ferrari car .

This is one of the reason we havent thought about chelation yet as she has a metal implant(stainless) on the hip.

Re: Need help with Schizophrenia cause [Re: cjames] #71508
06/28/13 10:15 PM
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Marc
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James, this is the thread I started which got me a "mild notice" that I should not be posting in this portion of the forum:

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=70617#Post70617


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