News you won't see in controlled mainstream media.

'Yeah the Cutler protocol is stupid because of what it has warped into and it has become very cult-like. There is no exchange of information and you cannot talk about anything else that might go against the almighty Cutler. People put him up on some pedestal that scares the crap out of me. It is not normal at all. The information is repeated over and over again like robots and no one even knows where the information even comes from or originated from. '

I agree. I also don't like the way people are blindly treating themselves for 'adrenal fatigue'. I think they are doing more harm than good. They think they know your problem based on one little forum post you make!

"The one ALA study concluded it moves mercury into other areas of the body which did not have mercury to begin with."

That is why some say that ALA should never be used without DMSA. I think I made a mistake in initially using ALA without DMSA.

I have some theories about why oral chelation often doesn't work. One theory is that due to overgrowth of candida and bacteria, very little of the chelating agent is absorbed. Another theory is that if someone is sulphur deficient, the chelating agent will be torn apart to be a source of desperately needed sulphur, and won't be able to chelate. Another theory is that glutathione production, or perhaps some other substance the body needs to detoxify itself with is not produced in large enough quantities, preventing the chelators from working. Since so many who are mercury toxic have nutritional deficiencies, this sounds like it might be reasonable. Who knows though.

I hope you get well quickly using the oral DMPS, however I have a feeling that you probably won't see rapid progress.

Clearly DMSA is getting mercury out of the body as seen by the greatly increased mercury excretion in challenge tests. Perhaps the DMSA even in combination with ALA still isn't getting enough mercury out of the brain and nervous system of enough people. After reading about how important vitamin D is for brain detoxification, it wouldn't surprise me if those who don't get well when using ALA and DMSA don't respond due to a vitamin D deficiency.

"This is a study that was done on humans.
http://www.nih.gov/news/health/oct2010/niehs-22.htm"

This study doesn't make sense to me. It focuses on blood levels of mercury. What is important though is how much mercury is leaving the body. If enough mercury leaves the body, the blood levels will eventually decline substantially.

Birdlady, I see posted in your blog that you started Humaworm. I think parasite cleansing is a good idea, however I wonder if it is wise to do a parasite cleanse while chelating. I wouldn't do it. I would stop chelating for a few weeks while doing the parasite cleanse.

It seems a bit unusual that Humaworm suggests 2 capsules in the morning and two in the evening. Some other parasite cleanses recommend taking it a few minutes before each meal.

Telling me I was not mercury toxic! Ha! Quality comment! Mate, some people would be highly offended at being told their mercury toxicity was all in their heads…LOL.

And that my friend JK is exactly what I am talking about. You could not have hit the nail more squarely on the head. You put my getting better down to some of the issues I cured along the way. You think my cures do not apply to you. You think I didn’t have mercury poisoning, or that my mercury poisoning was not as bad as yours, or other peoples.

Ha! I wish. Let me assure you I was just as mercury toxic as everyone else. My mother had amalgams. I had amalgams for 20 years. I had a tuna diet. I slept in a bed of mercury after I broke a thermometer in my bed and didn’t clean it up. Dentists drilled the hell out of my amalgams frequently, and to really mash my mind I had unsafe amalgam removal that made me go mental. My hair tests also clearly show me as mercury toxic. So telling me I am not/was not mercury toxic is sadly incorrect.

But back to the point I was trying to make. Mercury poisoning is a full body experience: everything inside the body is poisoned. Everything needs massive help to unclog it of mercury and unclog it of all the other mess caused by nothing working properly. My message is that to get better you need to do many different things to heal. This message is exactly the same as Cutlers. The Cutler protocol is very simple and easy: only takes up 2-3 sides of A4 paper to write down. You don’t need a long complicated book for his simple chelation protocol. What makes Cutlers book so awesome is the realisation that everything can and does get compromised and he gives loads of different ways to help, support, clean & heal – and all while chelating the mercury safely out. I also found lots of other ways to help myself.

That’s what I did: I chucked everything, including the kitchen sink, at my problems. I discovered that every part of my body was compromised and that virtually everything I tried, helped me in some ways. Sometimes big, sometimes small, but I quickly discovered everything was screwed and that everything I tired helped. Collectively all the different things healed me.

I am still mercury toxic. I still chelate. But I am symptom free. Not sure how long symptom free will last, because the mercury could rear it’s ugly head at any time…and that’s why I still chelate.

No – I never did much testing.

Yes (and no, but mostly no) I have to do the cleanses to stay healthy. Why? Because I am very mercury toxic? How do I know that I am very mercury toxic? Because I can only handle a low chelator dose.

I could stop the cleanses and just chelate…but why not use the herbs as I do? I get hardly any side-effects from them now, they are cheap, and they keep me fit & well during the hard work of me chelating the mercury out. I can do the herbs standing on my head, with my eyes closed, juggling balls….the herbs are piss easy and they keep me fit and well. No need to stop as they are as easy as taking a few capsules each day and drinking water each day. It’s not difficult and has minimal impact on my day-to-day life.

If I stopped chelation I could stop the cleanses…but in a couple of years the mercury would come out of me and damage my health again. I am in this to heal completely so I can have a long happy, healthy life. I have to chelate to achieve this goal. Chelation is hard work, so I use the herbs to ease the ride.

I am lucky I found so many ways to heal myself
I am unlucky that I am some full of mercury: I had many different exposures in my life.

But…that’s life and I am lucky enough to have found ways to help myself lead a totally normal life now.

“I am well aware of your story btw and no offense, but I don't buy the whole idea that 5mg of ALA was the reason for your success. Thanks for sharing but I just think it was the other stuff you were doing imo.”

I agree wholeheartedly with you. The reason I got better is because of ALL the different things I did. That’s my point. The herbs cleaned up the mess the mercury caused. The chelation safely removes the mercury…but I have a lot of mercury in me and it’s taking a long time to remove it…but that’s cool….i am symptom free from all the herbs…..so chelation is just another chore. Now, for me, chelation is like brushing my teeth. An essential day-to-day job.

My point was that chelating with tiny amounts of ALA and DMSA(less than 25 mg of each) can not produce much progress. I am beginning to think that even chelating with larger doses of ALA and DMSA(100-200 mg of each every 3 hours) even for many rounds might not produce much benefit. I am taking a break from the ALA and DMSA and concentating on fighting candida. I am loading up on olive leaf extract, biotin, garlic, cloves, and curry powder.
I am also focusing on vitamin D and taking 200 mcg selenium a day.

I just wanted to respond to Sunshine.

Sunshine, my problem is you are now considered a Cutler success story... They rave about you and your name is always brought up, but if you stop doing the cleanses you get sick. That isn't exactly a success story in my eyes. Obviously mercury is still effecting you in some way and even though you did many rounds of chelation, the doses were extremely tiny and I doubt have anything to do with your success.

The side effects you get from "large" doses of chelators is likely just the sulfur/mercury causing gut issues. I am convinced after reading lots of forums and other doctor theories, that nearly all gut issues are from heavy metals. Lots of people get caught in this vicious cycle where they stop chelating to take care of "gut issues" but those gut issues will always be around as long as you are heavy metal toxic.

You admit you cannot stop the cleanses or you will become ill again. You cannot have it both ways here. Either you are a success story or you aren't. From what you, yourself posted, you are not. You have simply found a bandaid to the gut issues and it works really well for you. Great but please do not go around telling people that chelation has cured you. You are far from cured in my eyes.

You never tested to see if metals even came out, so I'm quite skeptical that you are in fact chelating on 5mg of ALA. Small amounts of ALA is found in foods, so once again very skeptical here. Now if you had some testing to show you were excreting a lot of metals while on round, then I'd be convinced.

I seriously, highly doubt from my research that 5mg of ALA did anything. It was likely the cleanses which are keeping whatever bacteria or parasite from building up in your system. This is enough for your body to feel good as you are likely keeping your immune system in check. You are a success story for liver and parasite cleanses and NOT Cutler's protocol.

I'm glad you are OK with doing these cleanses for the rest of your life, but what I am NOT OK with is the FDC people using YOU as their success story when you are not. It is misleading.

When you are cured that means you do not have to do anything to continue that status of health. For example, when you burn yourself, once the skin heals over you do not have to continuously put bandaids on the wound for the rest of your life. That burn is cured/healed and you don't think about it again. Same goes for a broken bone. You don't have to keep wearing a cast forever.

Thank you for responding and I'm glad you are feeling better, but I wouldn't call yourself cured by the Cutler protocol by any means.

Birdlady:

You said DMSA didn't work for you and you are no better.

Well DMSA isn't an essential chelation agent for the AC protocol. ALA is what takes the mercury out. DMSA just surpresses symptoms.

DMSA or DMPS don't get into your brain or other organs. They just detox your blood. ALA does the real detox work. So its not a surprise that DMSA chelation did not help you.

You said Cutler or FCD is against DMPS.

Cutler says DMPS is more effective than DMSA and he prefers it but he feels the cost is too high for many. The moderator of FCD Lindajaytee chelated for a lonhg time with DMPS. So did other moderators.
They are not against DMPS.

You said the studies the work of andy cutler is based on are not available or in russian language

well that's not true. There has been a translation of the russian posted on one of the chelation listserver. It has been there for almost 10 years.

Also you suggested that DMPS will cure people and other aganets will not.

The problem is that DMPS does not access brain tissue. It will not detox your nervous system. The only thing that can do that is ALA.

You said that studies show that ALA will redistribute mercury to mother places.

Yes but this is why andy cutler says you have to take it every 3 hours or you will redistribute mercury to more sensitive locations.

You said that there are only success stories with DMPS but not with the cutler protocol and Sunshine isn't a real sucess story.


According to your strict criteria the mercurylife.com story isn't a real success story either since the person clearly states the he is not OK and still in the chelation process.

Generally there is a lack of chelation success stories not matter what method you look at.

But there are success stories with the cutler protocol.

have a look here:

http://whatidontknow.net/blog/eight-years-and-counting-my-chelation-story/

or here:

This is a progress report. 5 years later the person claims to be completely cured. (see the robert cartland story in the second link)


http://onibasu.com/archives/am/84889.html
http://onibasu.com/wiki/Progress_reports


or here:

here is an interview with Dr. Pompa and andy cutler. Dr. Pompa claims that he was very sick from mercury poisoning and chelated himself with the cutler protocol and is well now.

http://www.healthcentersofthefuture.com/DrCutler/


I know a few others but i am too lazy to list them.

You said the Amy Holmes study showed that the cutler protocol worked only for the very young children but the 18 year old did not show any improvement

Cutler said that very young children will often respond within a few rounds but for adults it will take 10-12 round to notice significant improvements.

To my best knowledge the children in the study were only chelated for 8 rounds which isn't really much. I think it would be a bit premature to say it didn't work for 18 year olds since you would only expect the very young to improve significanty with such a small number of rounds.

I can understand your frustration about the lack of success stories and skepticism about AC but i think your are missing the point when you say DMSA is not effective but DMPSA is.

Both are ineffective in the sense that they will not detox for poisoned organs including your brain.

The question is if ALA is effective not if DMPS is better than DMSA. You also made some comments about the cutler protocol which are just not true.

Findthetruth, you make some valid points. Many who chelated with large doses of ALA(200 mg) plus some DMSA or DMPS are still ill. Perhaps something is missing from the equation, and something else is needed to be used with the ALA for it to be effective.

here is an other success story:

http://ontohigherlevel.com/articles/2010/10/does-the-cutler-protocol-work/#more-5

more about the robert cartland story:

http://mercuryexposure.info/consume...and-recovers-from-dental-amalgam-illness

more AC recovery stories:

http://mercurystories.com/

Thank you findthetruth !

birdlady is an intelligent astute person who i believe is looking from a long term view of herself and others, i hope it shows what i am writing could be of use.

maybe we should all be using the "Sunshine Protocol":

So far I have done 7 full body rounds with herbs. Moving around the body using different the sets of herbs to cleanse different parts of my body. Month after month, year after year, I am always doing some form of cleaning, be it chelation or one of the cleanses. Every week I am doing something to help myself without fail. To date it’s been 4 years. In that time I have gone from deaths door, to fit and healthy again.
In the last 4 years I have done the following:

Bowel cleanse x 7 = 7 months
parasite cleanse x 7 = 7 months
kidney cleanse x 10 = 7 months
liver cleanse x 5 = 3 month
liver flush x 10 = 10 weekends
lung cleanse x 3 = 30 days
candida cleanse x 2 = 60 days
Essiac Tea x 2 = 3 months
Castor oil packs for liver cleansing about x 75+ (I don’t keep count)
Detox baths with epsom salts about x 100+ (I don’t keep count)

Plus 3 years work on my thyroids
Plus 3 years work on my adrenals
Plus 60 chelation rounds.
Plus full environment detox
Plus lots of energy work (reiki, mediation, pranayama, yoga, Alexander Technique)
Plus my full time job
Plus my family


in which 6.25 mg of ALA was just a very small part, like a "homeopathic part." Maybe the Cutler Protocol (which I've been on for 15 mos) is "the lazy person's way."

Russ' system (who says he was CURED til vapor trails brought symptoms back) is to INCREASE chelation doses over time. But this Sunshine protocol is really covering the bases seems to me, it's a concentrated cleansing of each area, most likely with fasting & sweats? (baths)

Wonder what Rom would think of this!? Whatever works for each..... thanks

I think that the Methyl B-12 is the problem. They say that people who are mercury toxic should not take this kind of B12. Because it binds to create methyl mercury which is very toxic. I remember when I was very mercury toxic, taking the Methyl B12 felt good the first couple of days and then after that time period I got really agitated!

Hi Birdlady,

Sorry to hear about your health issues. Have you addressed the potential issue of Leaky Gut Syndrome? From what I've heard and read, many if not all of our heatlh issues begin in our gut. Best of health to you.

Eddie