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Hi Russ, nice diversionary attempt.

Yours anyway? So can you summarize one point that you think is his most telling argument?

Rather than hide behind someone else that is not here to debate in person.

Note that this is an aerial view of the Grand Canyon (from google maps)

Features that are not consistent with flood outflow are

(1) meandering course cut deep into the rock, rather than a straight flow, in some places going in the opposite direction from other places,

(2) "V" shape canyon rather than "U" or wide flat bottom shape,

(3) tributaries from all directions rather than all from one source.

(4) absence, in the canyon and downstream, of the effect of flood outfloods -- as seen in the the scablands in Washington (state)

This is how a flood outflow canyon looks:


Zoom in closer on the Grand Canyon and you will see tributaries to the tributaries that also come from a variety of directions, and you are left with the contradictory evidence that if this was all cut by one flood outflow, that significant portions of this flow was going upstream.

All the tributaries and the main channel do not have the wide flat bottom channel of flood outflow canyons, but the narrow meandering V channel of gradual erosion.

And you still fail to deal with the rims being higher than the surrounding area. Do you have some magic way that floods cause the area being eroded to rise?

Enjoy.