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2 new Questions #2235
07/01/05 12:47 PM
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I'm sorry to be a pain, I just don't know where else to ask.

1) I read that vitamin C does something to mercury in the body? I've noticed that a few times I've overdosed on fruit, I've been really sick - running nose, sneeze, nausea, vomittingm profound headache. I thought it was allergy to fruit so I stopped eating and drinking it. But could it be the way it was doing something to the mercury?

2. My hip problem in my left leg the doctor says is due to undetected problem at birth, childood or ligament problem. As I can't trust anything they tell me anymore, could this also be a mercury symptom? The problem is my hip only moves so far i.e I can't sit in yoga position because the hip won't go down. Maybe it was due to traumatic birth, when they pulled me by my legs, but I just don't know what to believe any more. Mercury is neuro toxin that affects nerves and muscles so could it have caused something in my hip to have seized up so that it doesn't go all the way down? I first noticed this in my teens. I'd been having mercury fillings for about 5 years before that.

Thanks for the patience with all my questions, I'm really grateful you guys (and gals!) are here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />



Re: 2 new Questions #2236
07/01/05 03:47 PM
07/01/05 03:47 PM
Sandra  Offline
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Vitamin C counteracts damage that mecury is doing in your body thus it is good to take lots of it if you are mercury toxic. It does not do anything directly to the mercury itself.

As far as your hip goes, with mercury, anything is possible. Remember, people get multiple sclerosis from mercury, so why not some problem in your hip? It's just hard to know for sure.

Regarding the fruit, my guess is that you may have aggravated yeast (candida) by eating all that fruit. Most people who are mercury toxic have candida yeast. My levels are very high. Sugar and sweets including fruit should be avoided to prevent flare ups.

Sandra

Re: 2 new Questions #2237
07/01/05 03:56 PM
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Thanks for the info <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I haven't heard of candida. What are the symptoms? Is this the same kind of thing as thrush? I had to have treatment for that once. Does it cause warts? I had outbreak of those.

Re: 2 new Questions #2238
07/01/05 05:48 PM
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Candida can cause many symptoms.. Among them are fatigue, depression, brain fog, difficulty concentrating, etc. There are many other symptoms as well. Also, for women there can be vaginal yeast infections. Basically it's yeast overgrowth in the body. If you do some searches on candida you can get a lot more info. I am loaded with it ever since I became mercury toxic. When I chelate with DMSA, it activates my yeast and it gets worse, but DMSA does that. The candida is caused by the mercury however.

Sandra

Sandra

Re: 2 new Questions #2239
07/01/05 05:50 PM
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OOPS, I forgot Demi...

THRUSH is definitely a symptom of candida!!

Sandra

Re: 2 new Questions #2240
07/01/05 08:22 PM
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I agree with Sandra. Vitamin C is definitely necessary for counteracting the damage from mercury. In fact, whenever I get a flare-up of "mercury symptoms", I take about 3-4 grams (3000-4000 mgs) of a vitamin C supplement called Citrus Bioflavonoids, along with 1-2 capsules of Vitamin E Complete and 4-6 capsules of Algin. Within 15-30 minutes I'm feeling "right as rain" (to shamelessly quote the Oracle from "The Matrix"). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

But seriously, vitamin C is a must for anyone dealing with mercury. Again, I agree with Sandra that the ill feelings you experienced from eating fruit were the result of the natural sugar in fruit, which feeds the Candida.

Abstaining from fruits and all sources of sugar will definitely help with your Candida/Thrush symptoms, but until you get all the mercury out, your body will probably never be able to eliminate the Candida entirely.

My business partner had this same problem for the last year or so before he got his amalgams removed. However, once the mercury was out, the Candida went away all on its own. Now, he can eat fruit, desserts, breads, even a glass of beer (which actually he rarely ever does), without having any Candida problems.

In the meantime, I'd recommend taking Olive Leaf Extract and a good probiotic supplement like Bifidophilus Flora Force. In case you're not familiar with probiotics, the term refers to natural supplements that contain strains of "beneficial bacteria" that help the body fight the "bad bacteria" (like Candida). You can read the info sheets on both products if you want to know more: Bifidophilus Flora Force, Olive Leaf Extract

Like Sandra said, Candida can cause lots of problems. Common symptoms associated with Candida yeast include thrush, athlete's foot, urinary tract infections, fatigue, "brain-fog", rashes under the arms or in "moist" areas of the body (the groin, under the breasts, etc.), headaches, hyperactivity, even irritability/aggressiveness.

Regarding your hip problem, again I think Sandra could be correct, it could have something to do with mercury's effect on the nervous system, plus mercury interferes with the body's ability to utilize magnesium...ever get muscle cramps or spasms or eye twitching? Since this problem first occurred AFTER you had the fillings put in, common sense says that a connection is certainly possible.

You might want to seek out a good Neuro-Muscular massage therapist. I had an injury that affected the range of motion in my right arm and contributed to back and neck pain for 10 years. After my first one-hour session with the massage therapist doing deep tissue work, I had more range of motion in my arm and less tension and stiffness in my neck and back than I had had after 3 months of chiropractics, going 3 times a week. After only 3 one-hour massage appointments, my arms were nearly equal and my neck and back felt great. I continued getting massage (just because I loved it!) once-a-month for about 6 months. It was definitely worth every penny, especially since I had an excellent therapist.

One thing I should mention...be sure to drink lots of water and take lots of vitamin C and Algin after a massage. Massage, especially the deep tissue kind, can really "stir up" mercury and release it from within the tissues into the blood stream. If you don't have the Algin to absorb the mercury, or at the very least, vitamin C, you'll probably experience ill feelings afterwards, like nausea, headache, fatigue, etc.

Hope some of this info helps! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: 2 new Questions #2241
07/02/05 06:26 AM
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Demi  Offline
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Thanks Sandra and Laura.

All this is starting to get to me. Because of my anxiety disorder, I don't cope very well with medical stuff and dentist stuff. I get panic attacks if I have to go to the dentist. I don't know who I can trust to help me and I have very little support from my family because my mother is so ill and my father can't cope with much at all. I'm not in a relationship and my best friend just moved away. I feel so alone right now, it's so hard. I don't have much money and am worried about the cost of treatment or if I get worse after it. The detox program sounds complicated and my mind is such a fog I can't face reading all the literature. It gives me panic attacks.

I am terrified at what they have done to my body. I don't drink alcohol, don't smoke, never done drugs, and never been sexually active or on birth control. All my life I have tried to do right by my health and now I find out I was being poisoned all that time. It's so hard, and despite what I'm learning here and on other sites, people in my home life are still not seeming to accept I have been poisoned or the extent of how much I have been suffering over the years (I kept a lot of it to myself so as not to bother anyone).

I hope the dentist I see can help me, but if he doesn't have diamondlite, which I doubt, then I am not in a much better situation because I am not having anything else in my mouth.

I will try and find some of the things you suggest. Thanks for being here. All this is so hard for me.

Re: 2 new Questions #2242
07/02/05 09:33 AM
07/02/05 09:33 AM
Sandra  Offline
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Boston, MA ****
You are not alone. Mercury poisoning from my dental fillings destroyed my life. I am seriously starting to believe that there is a conspiracy between the ADA, AMA and APA. The dentists place the mercury in our mouths to make us crazy and/or sick and keep the doctors and psychiatrists busy. Not to mention the drug companies. We need to take matters into our own hands. I know how hard it is. I have spent more time crying over this injustice that I can tell you. Although I'm still very unwell, I have hope that once I get the mercury out, I will recover and be able to resume a semi normal life. This situation is truly tyrranical as far as I am concerned.

Sandra

Re: 2 new Questions #2243
07/02/05 11:11 AM
07/02/05 11:11 AM
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Anonymous OP
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[color:"purple"] Hello to all,

I have been reading the dilemas of all the illnesses and symptomologies each and everyone of you are in. I personally had mercury poisoning which was off the charts. I had reached a point in my life that I thought I was doing all I could, wholistically researching and finding what I thought were the answers to my problems, candida, depression, mercury poisoning, CFS, fibro, IBS and squamous cell sarcoma.

I finally fell upon Dr. Robert O. Young over 2 years ago. The pH Miracle doctor.

I went on Dr Young's program, within 10 weeks, I was free of depression that plagued me for 43 years of my life going off all medication (it is clinically genetic in my family), I lost 37 pounds ( going from 152 to 115, my cholesterol dropped from 207 to 135, my bowels normalized, my cancer dissapeared, all my aches and pains were gone, I was able to walk 3 miles a day about 3-4 days a week, and so many other great changes took place. I no longer laid in bed shouting for someone to come close my door or bring me water!

So, the answer to rid my body off all dis-ease was to totally detox...flush out all the rivers, oceans and streams of the body with a high pH value in structured water with greens. Peeing the way to health! Restructure the blood and tissue by giving it what is molecurely structured to build new blood and tissue. ie... High frequency and quality, electrically processed supplementations are extremely important (not off your store shelf) Water, Oxygen, Minerals, Alkalinity, Nutrition...

The body now can efficiently detox metals and balance itself!

My mercury is in acceptable range!

Educating and tapping into the innate intelligence we all have and learning to sort out what does and does not make sense when it comes to healing the spirit, body and mind.

There truly is only one dis-ease, it is the over-acidification of a cellular system due primarily to an inverted way of eating, living and thing. This over-acidification leads to the overgrowth in the body of micro-organisms that consume nutrition and glucose and expel waste products (acids and poisons) that cause dis-ease in the body.

Candida, yeast, bacteria, parasites, funguses, viruses are all signs that the body is acidic. These organisms only survive in the system if it is acidic.

The metaphor is: If you had a fish in a fish bowl and the fish was really sick, would you treat the fish or change the water. Your doctor most likely would treat the fish, we teach people to change the water.

Time to crawl out of the "diagnosis box". Time to accept responsibility that your state of health is something you choose and time to do something to improve it.

It was very emotional for me. For the first time in my life I had to face my truth that my state of health was something I did to myself. At first I was upset that Dr. Young told me I was doing depression and that lead to all my other issues (except mercury for which I had all my amalgams removed).

Today, my family and all my friends and new friends love the new me. I have a new lease on life and am empowered and dedicated to help others find the truth about sickness and disease through this new paradigm, Dr. Robert O. Young's "New Biology".

Please feel free to contact me if you truly want to reach optimal health.

I wish you all the success I have acheived in this awakening. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> [/color]

[color:"green"] Jeri Reid
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Re: 2 new Questions #2244
07/02/05 12:10 PM
07/02/05 12:10 PM
Demi  Offline
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Posts: 83 ***
Thanks, Sandra. It is unfair. I don't drink alcohol, don't smoke, do drugs, birth control, and am vegetarian. It's so ironic that while I was avoiding toxins as much as I could (caffeine is my vice!) I was being poisoned by my teeth. I feel like in "limbo", like it can't be happening.

But the positive side for me is I have found out about it and can try to get it done while I am still "only" 29. My health has got worse since my last filling in 1998, and I'm just having that tooth out and any other that is going to cause me problems. I just don't care if I have gaps, I want to be well.

I had one tooth out when a filling (mercury) went wrong - he didn't numb the area so I was in pain. He got cross with me and said it had to come out. I had it out and I am SO glad it's gone because that would have been another filling poisoning me for the past 10 years.

I avoided dentists after that horrible experience and then got sick from a tooth infection so had to go back. I was so sick I didn't object to mercury filling - I'd heard about it, but I didn't think it could be so bad a risk if they were using it (I was only 21 and not as cynical as now) so I had it done. I knew it wasn't good, I just was too sick and too shy and hoped for the best. That is what I regret more than anything. The other fillings were out of my control. This is the only one I consented.

After that I had white ones, and now I learn they leak estrogen.

I am TOTALLY disillusioned with what to put in my mouth.

I bought a vit c supplement 500mg today and took it immediately outside the shop as I have been avoiding fruits because of the way they made me have rhinitis.

I'm going shopping later and going to try and get some of the things Laura recommends.

My hope too is that I can get better if I get this poison out soon.


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You are not alone. Mercury poisoning from my dental fillings destroyed my life. I am seriously starting to believe that there is a conspiracy between the ADA, AMA and APA. The dentists place the mercury in our mouths to make us crazy and/or sick and keep the doctors and psychiatrists busy. Not to mention the drug companies. We need to take matters into our own hands. I know how hard it is. I have spent more time crying over this injustice that I can tell you. Although I'm still very unwell, I have hope that once I get the mercury out, I will recover and be able to resume a semi normal life. This situation is truly tyrranical as far as I am concerned.

Sandra

Re: 2 new Questions #2245
07/02/05 01:52 PM
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Hi Demi,

I have a lot of mercury fillings, so this may pertain more to me then you but be careful of probiotics.....don't get me wrong, they are good for people but when someone has a lot of mercury, if you take too much....too much is on a daily basis for mercury laden people. But the mercury can cause the good flora to turn into extremely bad bacteria and has an opposite effect. I learned this the hard way.......I can take one probiotic pill every other day, but I usually take it on an "as need" basis.

Also, ya'll are going to hate me.......but I was on a fungus cleanse diet (a while back) and I started getting very sick and in my research, I found that the candida fungi actually keeps the mercury from turning into the lethal methyl mercury....again don't get me wrong, too much candida is bad but a little keeps the mercury in the solid form and if the mercury turns into a vapor, it goes into the cells and brain a lot easier and fasater.

And something that is good, drink a glass of water, with a half of a squeeze of lemon in it.....no sugar. The lemon water will help to keep you alkaline.....I like to drink a glass, first thing in the morning and one in the evening, (I keep adding water to it and sip on it for hours).....you will notice a big difference in how you feel....it really is amazing....and cheap.

Elaine

Re: 2 new Questions #2246
07/02/05 02:48 PM
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Hi Demi and Sandra,

It definitely is unfair (and criminal, in my opinion) that dentists knowingly put a substance containing the 2nd most toxic metal in the mouths of children and adults. What's even worse is that they don't tell you they're putting mercury in your mouth - there is no "informed" consent obtained from the patient or the patient's parents/guardians.

However, I know (according to my religious beliefs) that some day, either in this life or the next, there will be justice for all of us who have suffered.

Believe me, I can completely sympathize with what both of you have gone through. In fact, I believe that a big reason why I'm still single today (at 38) is because of how mercury affected me mentally, emotionally and physically. People who know me the best have seen the remarkable changes in my personality since I had my amalgams removed.

All of this is to say that there is hope! Try as best you can to focus on the positive (I know it's very difficult with mercury still in your mouth), and try not to let your mind and emotions be overwhelmed by the evil in the world (again, I know it's hard with mercury). Before my mercury was out, it was almost impossible for me to be optimistic or even happy. My brain just seemed to gravitate to the negative, no matter what. It's like my mind would just loop, over and over, on anything negative or despairing. I often couldn't "snap out of it" and would end up having to just go to sleep or have a huge cry. What was worse is that I had no passion...no inner strength to do much of anything to try to really overcome the negativity.

However, today it's a different story completely. I have more passion that I ever had in my previous years combined. I'm optimistic, so much so that it often surprises my closest friends. I can think clearly and control my thoughts (no more "looping"). Sure, when bad things happen I can get angry or even somewhat depressed, but unlike before, I can find the positive and focus on that and have the passion and faith to make the best out of the situtation. It's truly amazing how different my life is, and all I did was get my mercury fillings out!

As far as detoxing goes, there are a lot of suggestions out there from a lot of well-meaning people. I would never claim to have all the answers or even suggest that what I've done is the only way to detox. All I can offer is what has worked for me and others that have done what I did.

Of course, you can read lots of testimonials from people right here on this forum, both good and bad. All in all, it seems that people who detox too quickly or too much tend to not do as well as those who take it slower. For example, I talked with one woman who had done everything and taken all kinds of detox products (some really expensive ones too) and she didn't get any better and often felt worse. But then she decided to try my suggestion of just taking Algin every day, and even though she's only taking I think 2 capsules a day, after 2 bottles, she's beginning to feel better and is having more energy.

I don't mean to go on and on...this is just a very passionate subject for me and I so much want to see everyone get better like I have.

For me and other people I've talked with, the answer has been surprisingly simple...get the mercury out and detox slowly and gently with supplements like Algin, vitamin C (with bioflavonoids) and vitamin E (with selenium). Keeping it simple makes it easier to determine what's working for you and what isn't...and that goes for nutritional supplements, foods, exercise or health therapies like massage, saunas, etc.

Of course, if your body is strong enough and you feel well enough, you can try adding other things to help specific health problems (i.e. low thyroid or adrenal function, low or high blood sugar, etc.). Just watch and see how you feel and make sure these products don't contain ingredients that will speed up the detox process (i.e. cilantro, MSM, alpha lipoic acid).

After a while, as more of the mercury has been eliminated and you're feeling better, go ahead and try doing something more to detox. I'd suggest only adding 1 thing at a time so you know how you react to it.

I hope you and everyone else on this forum have found support and encouragement here! Any time you feel overwhelmed or don't know what to do or have questions or just need to know that you're not crazy, send us a post!

There's a lot of wonderful, truly caring people here to help! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


Laura Clement
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Re: 2 new Questions #2247
07/02/05 03:54 PM
07/02/05 03:54 PM
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Thanks Elaine for the advice. I had one probiotic drink today, but it's only my first because I am a bit squeamish of the bacteria lol (thanks to OCD, and if caused by mercury, to the fillings, I have lots of stupid phobias).

I suffer quite a bit from thrush like symptoms so I guess one will do me some good.

The lemon drink sounds good. Thanks for the suggestion <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Hi Demi,

I have a lot of mercury fillings, so this may pertain more to me then you but be careful of probiotics.....don't get me wrong, they are good for people but when someone has a lot of mercury, if you take too much....too much is on a daily basis for mercury laden people. But the mercury can cause the good flora to turn into extremely bad bacteria and has an opposite effect. I learned this the hard way.......I can take one probiotic pill every other day, but I usually take it on an "as need" basis.

Also, ya'll are going to hate me.......but I was on a fungus cleanse diet (a while back) and I started getting very sick and in my research, I found that the candida fungi actually keeps the mercury from turning into the lethal methyl mercury....again don't get me wrong, too much candida is bad but a little keeps the mercury in the solid form and if the mercury turns into a vapor, it goes into the cells and brain a lot easier and fasater.

And something that is good, drink a glass of water, with a half of a squeeze of lemon in it.....no sugar. The lemon water will help to keep you alkaline.....I like to drink a glass, first thing in the morning and one in the evening, (I keep adding water to it and sip on it for hours).....you will notice a big difference in how you feel....it really is amazing....and cheap.

Elaine

Re: 2 new Questions #2248
07/02/05 04:18 PM
07/02/05 04:18 PM
Demi  Offline
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Thanks so much, Laura. Without this board to post, I think I would have gone out of my mind with worry by now. I am so very thankful to people like you, Russ, Sandra and Elaine who are here.

As I learn more about the subject perhaps I can contri bute a lot more. I have just suffered from OCD for 20 years that its' really hard for me to face some things. For a long time I thought I was to blame for my illness, that I was weak, that I wasn't controlling myself enough, but considering I showed symptoms of poisoning very soon after having the fillings, to have coped this long (and some real hard stuff has happened to me in my personal life) while they dumped more amalgam in my mouth, then I think I, and my body, is stronger than I think <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thank you so much for the info on the detox. That helps immensely. I just couldn't get my head around it because when I was reading my anxiety was getting higher, and the more anxiety I get the more brain fog I get.

Interesting about the detoxing too quickly. Do you think that our bodies can get addicted to the mercury in a way that it can to nicotine? Maybe getting it out too quickly causes like withdrawls?

I can relate to what you say about being single. I know that my problems are why I am not married or even ever been in a relationship. Because of the OCD I get panic attacks and somtimes have withdrawn myself from social situations and avoided relationships. It's hard to meet men when I don't talk to them a lot and avoid opportunites, and also when my mind is so cloudy that it's sometimes hard to maintain a converstation. I get problems with memory. Also dealing with infertility, hip problem, skin hypersensitivity gave me real low self-worth. It's been a tough ride. I just hope I come out a stronger person because I do think it's best to take the positive from a situation.

I am religious too - Christian (but I think God interacts with all who worship him). The time when I had the filling go wrong, I had a cross in my jeans because I was terrified (phobic of dentist) and was trusting God. For a long time I was really confused how it had gone wrong and I'd ended up with a tooth extraction - I just said to myseld, God knew best. Now I say thank you God! Another tooth full of mercury, and I really don't know what my health would be like now. Its so true that sometimes what you don't know is better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I was clinging to God and He was not going to let them put that stuff in my mouth. (That was the only time I took God to the dentist with me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

From what I have read, maybe mercury attacks our most vulnerable gene or something. My mother has fillings and also has the same symptoms as me. People could say we have hereditary illness, but I would say that I have half her genes so am likely to react very similar to a poison to her.

Thanks so much for being here. I have decided to have three teeth extracted and the other 4 filled. I have only lost 3 of my adult teeth (1 wisdom) so I am having some other molars that are far back out.

Re: 2 new Questions #2249
07/02/05 05:47 PM
07/02/05 05:47 PM
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I took vit c earlier 500mg and I have quite a bad headache. Is this normal? I also get 80% RDA from another vitamin supplement. It says on the vit c "do not exceed stated dose" - does that mean I shouldn't have taken my regular vit?

I'm also taking glucosamine for the muscle pain I get (some days so bad I can't do much at all except go for a walk, watch tv, computer for a bit and lie down). Also I am now taking magnesium.

Is it ok to take these stuff or an I stirring up mercury? For whilte I was taking iron to see if it helped the cycles, but it didn't so I stopped.

Re: 2 new Questions #2250
07/02/05 09:25 PM
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Hi, I take Ester C with biflavoniods and I really like it. I have also been diagnosed with lymes and my lymes doctor recommended taking high doses. When you are sick your body uses alot of C. I take the powder form and I actually take 9000 mg a day right now and I can tell it helps me feel better.

Re: 2 new Questions #2251
07/02/05 09:26 PM
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Hi, Elaine.
I keep trying lemon in my water and it makes my symptoms increase. I can't figure out why. I love lemon in my water and I know it is good, any idea why it would make me feel worse?
Vicki

Re: 2 new Questions #2252
07/03/05 08:34 PM
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I didn't get a headache today with the vit c, so I think it must have been something else. I had 2 eggs for lunch yesterday, and I sometimes get sick with them. I did feel a lot better today after the vit c - like I had more energy and not so much muscle pain.

I hear a lot about the blood-brain barrier. As OCD sufferer, the problem is definitely in my brain. Does that mean the mercury is in my brain? Is it in everyone's brain?

When I get the fillings out and go on detox, will that help the problem to go away, or will the damage already be done? I hear that people have got better from depression, and that is also brain chemical thing, so there might be hope?


Re: 2 new Questions #2253
07/04/05 02:14 AM
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Hi Demi

Just wanted to sympahize with you and tell you that you are not alone. I find the people and the info on this forum a blessing. Imagine if there was no internet or think of the people who dont have access to computers and the interenet and are also poisoned. I am new myself, and I think that the most important thing is that you are _aware_ of what is going on, and that will set you on the right track. I am just beginning the awareness process, now we have to work hard on the process.

I agree with what others have told you about how an overdos on fruit (hence sugar) can give you flare-ups. Candida is a yeast (bad bacteria) that feeds from sugar among other things. I belive the candida symptoms are very similar to mercury toxicity ones.
I thought all my chronic illnesses were due to candida and have been on the candida diet for three months until my DMSA urine tests came out last week with devastating results, now I have candida and mercury.

I am including a link of a wonderful forum for candida if you are interested, the people are nice as in this one, it is like a big family. Many of the participants in the forum (and I mean many) have also amalgams fillings, which provoked their candida

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/kiddredd

Laura, you are such a wonderful person. In your postings you come across as a lovely, helpulf and altruistic person.
Laura said: Believe me, I can completely sympathize with what both of you have gone through. In fact, I believe that a big reason why I'm still single today (at 38) is because of how mercury affected me mentally, emotionally and physically"

Well, I didnt know you before, but I can say now that the male population wherever you live must be crazy for letting you go!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
By the way, Laura, I am going to try your suggestion of taking ALGIN with METAL FLUSH that my doctor prescribed, I am going to give it a try.
I will let you know how it goes.

Thanks a lot to all for this wonderful and much needed forum

Alicia

Re: 2 new Questions #2254
07/04/05 06:58 AM
07/04/05 06:58 AM
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Thanks, Alicia <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'm seeing a holistic dentist tomorrow who I hope can give me a test or confirmation that I have mercury poisoning, and general advice. I don't think the dentist has diamondlite so I'll probably have to look for another dentist to actually treat me, but having someone professional to initially talk with about this will hopefully be a huge help.

For those who have been treated, which is best - having the fillings done after unwanted teeth have been extracted, or extracting first? I'm thinking of having the fillings I want replaced done first, and then the remaining teeth removed (to prevent any risk of mercury going in the open socket.

Also on the tests, is this done by urine? I've heard that if the test shows "normal range" of mercury then it doesn't necessarily mean the fillings aren't poisoning me?

Re: 2 new Questions #2255
07/07/05 05:17 AM
07/07/05 05:17 AM
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Demi, I wanted to respond to the questions you posted earlier...

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I took vit c earlier 500mg and I have quite a bad headache. Is this normal? I also get 80% RDA from another vitamin supplement. It says on the vit c "do not exceed stated dose" - does that mean I shouldn't have taken my regular vit?

You may want to check the ingredients in your vitamin C. I've seen vitamin C supplements that actually contain sugar or even aspartame (NutraSweet)! [On a side note, aspartame is a wonderful food additive that causes brain cancers, seizures, neurological disorders, brain damage in unborn children, and even death! There's an excellent video called Sweet Misery that I personally think everyone should see...especially since so many foods, drinks, candies, gums, protein powders, snack bars, etc. contain aspartame!]

Back to the vitamin C, I would keep taking the vitamin C and see if you continue to get headaches. If so, then stop taking it and see if you still get headaches. Perhaps something else is going on. I actually take anywhere from 2-6,000 mg of vitamin C (Citrus Bioflavonoids) every day, plus extra Rose Hips, an herbal source of vitamin C and bioflavonoids that help increase the absorption of vitamin C.

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I'm also taking glucosamine for the muscle pain I get (some days so bad I can't do much at all except go for a walk, watch tv, computer for a bit and lie down). Also I am now taking magnesium. Is it ok to take these stuff or an I stirring up mercury? For whilte I was taking iron to see if it helped the cycles, but it didn't so I stopped.
I don't think Glucosamine by itself would stir up mercury. However, many Glucosamine supplements also contain MSM, which can definitely aggravate mercury symptoms, because it is a source of sulfur. Although not everyone has a problem with sulfur, many people do. I myself don't eat eggs because they cause me to have "mercury symptoms." I've also just recently discovered that eating large amounts of freshly chopped garlic (1/8 to 1/4 cup) do the same thing to me also. Of course, I know that's a lot of garlic to eat in one sitting, but I love garlic...it's so good for you! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Extra magnesium is also good for people with mercury poisoning, although you want to be careful not to take too much without getting sufficient calcium. Having an excess of magnesium can be as bad as having an excess of calcium. If you don't eat many organic green vegetables (non-organic vegetables provide very, very small amounts of vitamins and minerals), you may want to consider taking a properly balance Calcium-Magnesium supplement and then add extra Magnesium if you need to.

By the way, you mentioned that you're taking Glucosamine for "muscle pain." However, glucosamine is primarily used for its benefits for "joint pain" and joint deterioration. Glucosamine "stimulate[s] the production of connective tissue?the primary ingredient which makes up cartilage?in the joints." (Source: HART Master Reference)

You may find better relief from your muscle pain with something like Fibralgia, a natural alternative to prescription anti-inflammatories for people with FMS (Fibromyalgia syndrome). If you don't have FMS but yet have chronic muscle pain (including spasms and/or muscle tension), you might find an herbal supplement like Nerve Eight helpful. It contains herbs that help relieve pain and relax muscle tension.

One last thought...have you tried taking Algin? Even though you still have a few fillings left, based on your symptoms, it sounds to me like your body is at a point where it can no longer store the mercury. This means the mercury is circulating throughout your body, which would explain why you're having problems when other people with mercury fillings aren't. In this case, if you took Algin, it would absorb the mercury in circulation, thus reducing your mercury levels in much the same way that Algin would help someone who already had the fillings removed and was detoxing.

I know it may be hard to believe, especially with mercury toxicity and what it does to your mind (I've been there), that something as simple as Algin could really help you feel better. I don't mean to sound like a broken record about the Algin, but I know it's truly been a life-saver for me. I honestly only know of 1 other person who was as mentally and emotionally "oppressed" (for lack of a better description) as I was before the mercury was removed. (Oh yeah, I believe he had a mouthful of fillings too!) With Algin, my symptoms are continually decreasing and many are completely or near completely gone. However, if I eat fish, eggs or do strenuous physical work that stirs up mercury and I don't take Algin, I'm a wreck. But, if I take a bunch of Algin, then the symptoms decrease dramatically very quickly. I'd say I start feeling better often within 15 or 20 minutes. Of course, in this scenario I just described, I have to keep taking extra Algin several times a day for the next several days to get back to where I was before doing something dumb like eating fish or eggs and not taking Algin. You see, I can actually often times get away with eating some fish or eggs as long as I take a bunch of Algin before and after the meal and throughout the rest of the day and evening, or throughout the next day and evening if I ate late. I've experimented a few times and Algin really does make that big a difference for me.

Anyway, you might really want to consider trying Algin. I really think it might help you. I know that without it, I'd be an anxious, irritable, PMSing, brain-fogged, negative, stressed-out wreck. I'd also have chronic fatigue, poor sleep, neck and back pain, and I'd be cold all the time too! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I hope you'll find at least some of this information helpful. It really grieves me to think that so many people have lived their lives in the same turmoil and despair that I did, all because of their fillings. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


Laura Clement
Author, HART Master Reference
Mercury Detox Supplements
My Favorite Amalgam-Illness Book
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Re: 2 new Questions #2256
07/07/05 08:49 AM
07/07/05 08:49 AM
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Thank so much, Laura. I can't really formulate much of a reply right now, between the mercury and the bombs in London, my mind is pretty much all over the place, but I appreciate SO very much all the advice and help you and Russ are giving, and others here. I really do.

My hormone test results suggest that I might have Insulin Resistance - diabetes is very prevalent in my family. My mother's brother has it and my father's sister. This is probably accounting for a lot of my symptoms - shakes, amenorrhea, hyperglycemia..

The mercury I think is mainly triggering my acute anxiety, sinusitis, cadida, rhinitis and noise in ears.

Thanks again for all this advice, I am very grateful.

Re: 2 new Questions #2257
07/07/05 09:11 AM
07/07/05 09:11 AM
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BTW, I am really having to push to get Insulin Resistance tested. For some years now I've been telling my (various) doctors that I have Insulin Resistance, but they never take me seriously.

For those who are Christians, please pray that they will take me seriously now I have tests suggesting I have it.

If I can get Insulin Resistance treated and my teeth fixed and go on detox, then I am sure I can get a lot of my health back.

Re: 2 new Questions #2258
07/07/05 07:19 PM
07/07/05 07:19 PM
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You may want to check the ingredients in your vitamin C.

These are the ingedients in the supplements I'm taking at the moment:

Vit C:500mg
Ascorbic Acid, sorbitol, xanthan gum, stabiliser (hydroxypropylmethyl cellulose), anticaking agent (magnesium stearate), colour (curcumin)

Magnesium 250mg
magensium oxide, dicalcium phosphate, stabilisers (microcrtstalime cellulose, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose) starch, snti caking agents (magnesium silicate, magnesium stearate, colour (e171)

multi vits:
dicalciumphosphate, stabilisers (microcrtstalime cellulose, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, sodium carboxymethylcellulose) vit (ascorbic acid) ferrus sulphate, magnesium oxide, rutin, brewer's yeast, niacin (as niacinamide), anticaking agents (stearic acid, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide), zinc sulphate, vitamin a (as retinyl, acetate), vit e ( as d alpha tocopheryl acid succinate), riboflavin, (vit b2), thiamine mononitrate (vit b1) vit b6 (pyrifoxine hydrochloride) vit d, folic acid, potassium iodide, vit b12 (as cyanocobalamin) sweetener (mannitol) d-biotin.

Glucosamine 500mg
glucosamine sulphate, 2kcl, microcrystalline cellulose, hydroxypropylmethylcellulose, magmesium stearate (veg origin), titanium dioxide.

[quote]One last thought...have you tried taking Algin? Even though you still have a few fillings left, based on your symptoms, it sounds to me like your body is at a point where it can no longer store the mercury. This means the mercury is circulating throughout your body, which would explain why you're having problems when other people with mercury fillings aren't. In this case, if you took Algin, it would absorb the mercury in circulation, thus reducing your mercury levels in much the same way that Algin would help someone who already had the fillings removed and was detoxing.[quote]

Sounds like it might help, thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Important Information About Type II Diabetes #2259
07/07/05 09:18 PM
07/07/05 09:18 PM
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If you or anyone you know has Type II Diabetes, I stongly suggest you watch this video by Dr. Julian Whitaker, M.D.:

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It contains vital information the natural health industry has known for a long time but has been kept from the general public.


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Re: 2 new Questions #2260
07/25/05 08:23 AM
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[quote] Also, ya'll are going to hate me.......but I was on a fungus cleanse diet (a while back) and I started getting very sick and in my research, I found that the candida fungi actually keeps the mercury from turning into the lethal methyl mercury....again don't get me wrong, too much candida is bad but a little keeps the mercury in the solid form and if the mercury turns into a vapor, it goes into the cells and brain a lot easier and fasater.

Russ and Laura,

I was wondering if you did any research in regards to candida and the relation to mercury. Do you agree with this statement? The reason why I am asking is because I attacked candida without knowing I was mercury toxic and I was wondering if I should have done things the other way around. I am now 6 months post removal and still exibiting many symptoms of mercury, but I also still have candida and I was not sure if I should start with candida detox protocol at this time and take any anti-fungals? it's a bit confusing..



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